You know, I do appreciate your views on this. I too used to be a starry eyed TM 
fanatic who absolutely believed that TM was the answer to everything (even 
though it obviously was not, as I saw and ignored especially when I was living 
in Fairfield and working on staff at MIU.)

After that I rubbed elbows with a vast number of people all of whom engaged in 
various sorts of alternative spiritual endeavors - everything from Sedona folks 
who banged on a Native American drum every time the moon showed a sliver of 
itself in the night sky, to folks who believed the "Galactics" were gonna come 
down at juuuuuuuust the right time and save us all, to the wiccans most of whom 
have no idea where wicca actually comes from, to people who claim to have the 
inside track to God, to those who are determined warriors on the war path with 
all things tech and money based and on and on. 

If only I had known about UG Krishnamurti in those days a talk or two from him 
might have saved me a lot of time.

These days I feel that about 90% of all this new agey spiritual doings is about 
as much use as tits on a bo' hawg. That is southern slang for a male hog, a 

Not that there is not some use in what all spiritually minded folks do but most 
of it just seems designed, albeit unconsciously, just to make us feel better. 
And that is all it does, it makes us feel better emotionally, even though our 
lives suck. And what better way to feel better than to believe our very special 
and wonderful chosen path will lead to some sort of salvation for all humanity. 

Its good to feel good, but when I see that most of the practitioners of all 
this new agey stuff are STILL unhappy, still unhealthy, still un-wealthy and 
still having crappy relationships, I see that even with the practices, beliefs, 
icons and things and people to follow it doesn't seem to do the trick except 
that we fool ourselves into believing if we stay on the path, we will 
eventually get to where we want to be (really happy).

As Edg would say "Bah!"
On Fri, 1/10/14, <> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: &quot;If Another  Country Was Doing This To 
Our Kids, Wed Be At  War&quot;
 Date: Friday, January 10, 2014, 3:24 AM
       Thanks for your comments.  (I wish I could
 still do the interspersing)
 I've been reflecting on
 how my outlook has changed over time.  
 From being an energetic foot
 soldier in Maharishi's Army confident I could change the
 world, to having now a much more sober vision of how things
 really are.  And I thank God for that more sober
 And although I'm afraid
 to say that the opposing forces, broadly defined as
 materialism, are going to prevail, there are still going to
 be many inroads made by those of a more spiritual
 ---In, <noozguru@...>
        On 01/08/2014 06:51 PM, steve.sundur@...
             I listened to several
                 interviews with this guy.
             Among the things he
                 writes about is that income disparity is
 pretty much
                 here to stay.  But instead of 1% and
 the rest, it is
                 more likely to be about 15% who have
 resources, with
                 most everyone else just scraping
     Indeed lots of people I talk to are just scrapping
 by.  A lot of
     people are too proud to admit it though. You have to pry
     to find what their case is.  A lot of the
 unemployed are highly
     educated and have a lot of experience. 
 People's futures have been
     stolen and they should not be depressed, they should be
             He also points out,
                 (either correctly or incorrectly) that the
 catalyst for
                 social upheavals in the past was because
 people did not
                 have enough to eat, and that is not likely
 to be the
                 case now.
     The riots in Spain and Greece are do to people not being
 able to
     afford food.  Do you do the grocery shopping in the
 family?  Have
     you notice food prices going up faster than the rate of
     Or food packages getting smaller but still the same
 price?  Or the
     ingredients in something now are cheaper or more fillers
 than when
     you bought the product several years ago?
             Also, technology, being
                 so accessible, is able to provide enough
 comfort and
                 satisfaction so that people will be okay
 with a lower
                 standard of living.
     The last time the US economy was in balance was in the
 1970s.  After
     that it started going wacko.  Much of the
 "prosperity" of the
     country was based on credit and people tricked into
 buying things
     they really didn't need.  It's like there
 was a scheme to put
     everyone in debt.
     Yes, technology is one thing that has gotten
 cheaper.  But people
     don't need to be activists 24/7 so some recreation
 is fine.  A lot
     of folks wanted to downsize too as they got older but it
 has been
     difficult to sell their homes and renting something
 smaller often
     costs as much as the mortgage they are already
 paying.  It's crazy.
                 thing said is that stats will continue to
 drive most
                 decisions.  Just as in sports stats
 have become dominant
                 in measuring every nuance, this will
 continue in one's
                 personal life, determining credit
 worthiness, and into
                 areas not yet so affected in this
     And a lot of stats aren't at all, many stats are
 propaganda.  Be
     sure to consider the source.

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