From: Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?
that's great TurqB! I can only hope that lawyer Better Call Goldstein and many others read it. This IS, after all, the precedent they are about to set. I also hope that Google's search placement algorithms rank my posts today high enough than a number of TMers and interested lurkers out there in Networld find and see them. This really IS an issue of child slavery as far as I can tell, and sooner or later it's all going to come out, and the TM movement will perish as a result. Better than they divorce themselves from the whole thing and throw Girish & Co. to the wolves sooner rather than later. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3/13/14, TurquoiseBee <turquoi...@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 1:23 PM Conversation in the future: Child: What did you do for the TM movement, Daddy? I mean, before it was able to usher in the Age Of Enlightenment and ensure peace for all of us? Father: Well, son, I worked on the MUM Pundit Removal Squad. Child: What was that, Daddy? Father: Well, there were some unruly pundits -- obviously unstressing or possessed by rakshasas -- who needed to be removed from the pundit pris...uh...I mean...compound after they'd created a ruckus and jeopardized our cashflo...uh...I mean...our efforts for world peace. Child: So how did you "remove" them, Daddy? Father: Well, we couldn't get local law enforcement to do it for us any more, after they had an unpleasant experience being driven away by a bunch of teenagers, so we created our own elite force to handle such "removals" in the future. Child: Did you have a uniform, Daddy? Father: You betcha, son. Shiny black boots and black jumpsuit, and a way scary billy club and Taser to subdue unruly teenagers with. Child: How many unruly pundits did you "remove," Daddy? Father: I've lost count, son. But it was all worth it, because we all live in the Age Of Enlightenment now, and everything is perfect. Now stop asking questions and eat your peas. Child: But I don't *like* peas, Daddy. Father: Do you want me to get the Taser again? Do as you're told... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? This is great! Now when the pundits riot, they can tear up the MUM cars! Sheriff's Office Won't Help With Next Attempt To Remove Pandit By Mark Carlson, Reporter FAIRFIELD, Iowa - A pandit leader that inadvertently triggered some unrest near Fairfield Tuesday will still be removed, only this time the Jefferson County Sheriff's office won't be preset. Bill Goldstein, co-supervisor of the pandit project, said he doesn't anticipate seeking assistance from law enforcement when the pandit is removed on a second attempt to send him back to India. On Tuesday, dozens of pandits threw rocks at a Sheriff's vehicle as the Sheriff monitored the removal of the pandit at the request of supervisors on the project. The protesters damaged the car, but the sheriff was able to escape unharmed. The pandit leader was eventually returned to the campus in a peace keeping effort. Pandits are meditators who come from India to pray for peace in a gated campus outside of Fairfield. They come for two to three year rotations from India as part of a program that started nearly a decade ago. They are not students of the nearby Maharishi University of Management, although the university did assist with getting the program started. It's not clear when the pandit who triggered Tuesday's unrest will be removed. Leaders say they're making an effort to meet with other pandits to get to the bottom of the issue. The pandit is being sent back to India for "disciplinary reasons." Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Sheriffs-Office-Wont-Help-With-Next-Attempt-To-Remove-Pandit--249973471.html#ixzz2vqbCqYwZ -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3/13/14, anartax...@yahoo.com <anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, The photos of the compound in the newspaper look much like a minimum-security prison compound. I think all we need to do is have a more flexible mindset (characteristic of creative intelligence: flexibility) and agree that slavery is a good thing, and encourage its practise. Let's keep those little buggers locked up! Organisational transparency, freedom, compassion, that's for wimps. Totalitarian ideas is what this situation needs. Any situation that requires the natural, spontaneous flow of all the laws of nature to produce results must be forced into this mould at all costs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery by their own parents have an obligation to "fulfill their contract?" Are you saying that if said *adults* are not fulfilling the terms of their legal contract, they should continue to be housed in the USA and paid money rather than flown back to their home country? You seem to be attempting to paint them as victims. They are under pretty much, as far as I can tell, the same kind of contract that trained Jackie Chan as a Chinese Opera performer in Hong Kong. Such contracts may not be the best thing for children, but that is irrelevant to the question of what to do with them once they decide to stop working after coming here as adults with visas that describe specific working conditions. If adults like Jackie Chan came to this country under contract to perform in Chinese Opera productions and decided they no longer wished to perform, the entertainment company that brought them to the US to perform would be under no obligation to continue to house them and keep them in the USA once the contractees decided to stop working. In fact, as I understand it, it would be illegal for a company to do so since they were given work visas in this country for a specific purpose and if they are no longer living in this country for that specific purpose, if they remained, they would automatically be here illegally unless their status was changed through action of American immigration officials. If they want to attempt to change their work visas, that is a completely different issue than what is apparently going on, and it is highly doubtful that any of them have work skills that would allow them to legally be here if it wasn't under the extraordinary circumstances that it took several years for the TM organization to arrange. Visas usually aren't given to 1,000 people at a time so they can come to the USA and chant and meditate for several years. If you are saying that the pandits were abused as kids and should be seeking asylum, that too is different than what the newspaper accounts have been saying, and you have no proof that it is the case. If you are so concerned, you can always write the Indian ambassador and express your insider knowledge of the situation in order to help these people. It is your moral obligation to do so, don't you agree? L
