--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How do you reconcile the fact, which was mentioned
> > > > on here in some  
> > > > detail, that M. sleeps a full eight hours or more
> > > > and the fact that  
> > > > enlightened beings require little sleep? There are
> > > > numerous other  
> > > > items which would bring into question M.'s
> > > > "enlightenment".
> > > > 
> > > > So the story goes.
> > > 
> > > MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100%
> > > true. Nothing in the relative indicates anything
> > > regarding enlightenment. All mind games and ego
> > > positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with MMY
> > > personally?
> > 
> > I'm not sure what your point is, Doc.  I've
> > interacted with Maharishi many times, and 
> > based on those interactions I would never 
> > be tempted to assume that he is enlightened.
> 
> Except in the sense that we all are enlightened,
> of course.  :-)
>
I suspect Maharishi is enlightened. I have never met him, and many 
of his techniques and teaching methods aren't fool-proof, nor any 
evidence necessarily of his enlightenment. 

Nonetheless, his interest in, his goal of enlightening the world, 
and my intuition lead me to believe that he is enlightened. And 
that, and $4 will buy you a big cup of coffee...

By that I mean, it is really, really unimportant imo whether the man 
is enlightened, or not. Doesn't necessarily inform his skill as a 
teacher- just makes him a magnetic personality and drives his 
interest in the subject. In other words, it is impossible to 
determine through his teaching methods or his actions whether he is 
enlightened. And his teaching approach has absolutely no association 
with his state of consciousness.

The whole issue is a bit of a yawn at this point. Lots of tamas 
associated with it.





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