--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Response below. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > My experience is that refereed journals and > proceedings > > > provide > > > > > > > some degree of feedback and critique, but are not > absolute > > > measures > > > > > > of validity. >>> > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone here familiar with what kesterton (MIU's first PhD > in > > > > > physiology) found in attempting to replicate Wallace's > > > research. > > > > > I've been told he uncovered a serious methodological problem. > > > > > > > > > ****** > > > > > > > > The methodological problem had to do with the assumption that > the > > > reduction of oxygen > > > > consumption was due to TM practice. If I remember correctly, > it > > > went something like this: > > > > > > > > Subjects sitting quietly with eyes open were compared to their > > > measurements taken while > > > > meditating. The drop in oxygen consumption was attributed > entirely > > > to TM. > > > > > > > > Subsequent research showed that just sitting quietly with eyes > > > closed reduced oxygen > > > > consumption by the same amount as TM. > > > > > > > > It was a bombshell that hardly anyone noticed. "O2 consumption > > > twice as low as the > > > > deepest point of sleep" had been the "proof" of TM's > profundity; > > > now TM was equivalent to > > > > sitting quietly with eyes closed. > > > > > > > > > Wow, still relying on unpublished research and rumor are we? > Hardly > > > a 'bombshell'. Unpublished gossip, another arrow to the bigot's > bow. > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > If you are referring to Kesterson's research, you might wish to > consider that it was > > included in the dissertation for which MIU awarded his PhD. > > > > L B S>>. > > I am really only interested in research published in peer-reviewed > journals, though I am sure the research you cite is good, it has no > meaning to the world as it stands, and even if it were published it > has been somewhat swamped and washed away by the hundreds of other > studies showing more important results and the 20 million + dollars > in hard won grant money given by the NIH. > > OffWorld >
Which have nothing to do with O2 consumption, since Kesterson published his research... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/