--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Response below.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> > > > > > > > My experience is that refereed journals and 
> proceedings 
> > > provide 
> > > > > > > some degree of feedback and critique, but are not 
> absolute 
> > > measures
> > > > > > of validity. >>>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is anyone here familiar with what kesterton (MIU's first 
PhD 
> in
> > > > > physiology) found in attempting to replicate Wallace's 
> > > research.  
> > > > > I've been told he uncovered a serious methodological 
problem.
> > > > >
> > > > ******
> > > > 
> > > > The methodological problem had to do with the assumption that 
> the 
> > > reduction of oxygen 
> > > > consumption was due to TM practice. If I remember correctly, 
> it 
> > > went something like this:
> > > > 
> > > > Subjects sitting quietly with eyes open were compared to 
their 
> > > measurements taken while 
> > > > meditating. The drop in oxygen consumption was attributed 
> entirely 
> > > to TM.
> > > > 
> > > > Subsequent research showed that just sitting quietly with 
eyes 
> > > closed reduced oxygen 
> > > > consumption by the same amount as TM.
> > > > 
> > > > It was a bombshell that hardly anyone noticed. "O2 
consumption 
> > > twice as low as the 
> > > > deepest point of sleep" had been the "proof" of TM's 
> profundity; 
> > > now TM was equivalent to 
> > > > sitting quietly with eyes closed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow, still relying on unpublished research and rumor are we? 
> Hardly 
> > > a 'bombshell'. Unpublished gossip, another arrow to the bigot's 
> bow.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > >
> > @@@@@@@@
> > 
> > If you are referring to Kesterson's research, you might wish to 
> consider that it was 
> > included in the dissertation for which MIU awarded his PhD.
> > 
> > L B S>>.
> 
> I am really only interested in research published in peer-reviewed 
> journals, though I am sure the research you cite is good, it has no 
> meaning to the world as it stands, and even if it were published it 
> has been somewhat swamped and washed away by the hundreds of other 
> studies showing more important results and the 20 million + dollars 
> in hard won grant money given by the NIH.
> 
> OffWorld
>

Which have nothing to do with O2 consumption, since Kesterson 
published his research...






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