--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Response below.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
> > > > > > > > > My experience is that refereed journals and 
> > proceedings 
> > > > provide 
> > > > > > > > some degree of feedback and critique, but are not 
> > absolute 
> > > > measures
> > > > > > > of validity. >>>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is anyone here familiar with what kesterton (MIU's first 
> PhD 
> > in
> > > > > > physiology) found in attempting to replicate Wallace's 
> > > > research.  
> > > > > > I've been told he uncovered a serious methodological 
> problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > ******
> > > > > 
> > > > > The methodological problem had to do with the assumption 
that 
> > the 
> > > > reduction of oxygen 
> > > > > consumption was due to TM practice. If I remember 
correctly, 
> > it 
> > > > went something like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Subjects sitting quietly with eyes open were compared to 
> their 
> > > > measurements taken while 
> > > > > meditating. The drop in oxygen consumption was attributed 
> > entirely 
> > > > to TM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Subsequent research showed that just sitting quietly with 
> eyes 
> > > > closed reduced oxygen 
> > > > > consumption by the same amount as TM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It was a bombshell that hardly anyone noticed. "O2 
> consumption 
> > > > twice as low as the 
> > > > > deepest point of sleep" had been the "proof" of TM's 
> > profundity; 
> > > > now TM was equivalent to 
> > > > > sitting quietly with eyes closed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow, still relying on unpublished research and rumor are we? 
> > Hardly 
> > > > a 'bombshell'. Unpublished gossip, another arrow to the 
bigot's 
> > bow.
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld
> > > >
> > > @@@@@@@@
> > > 
> > > If you are referring to Kesterson's research, you might wish 
to 
> > consider that it was 
> > > included in the dissertation for which MIU awarded his PhD.
> > > 
> > > L B S>>.
> > 
> > I am really only interested in research published in peer-
reviewed 
> > journals, though I am sure the research you cite is good, it has 
no 
> > meaning to the world as it stands, and even if it were published 
it 
> > has been somewhat swamped and washed away by the hundreds of 
other 
> > studies showing more important results and the 20 million + 
dollars 
> > in hard won grant money given by the NIH.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> Which have nothing to do with O2 consumption, since Kesterson 
> published his research...>>

Maybe because nobody really cares about O2 consumption, but they do 
care about hypertension and heart disease strategies, and 
behavioural modifications in felons.

OffWorld





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