---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote :
On 6/18/2014 9:55 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There is no evidence in physical cosmology that would indicate human consciousness as more than a theory. You think the fact you can see and hear the world is only a theory? It's the only thing I'm certain of. > Your sense perceptions could be in error, but anything that only exists in the mind is a theory, since there are no physical objects inside our minds, we can only say that we are conscious of something, That's what I mean by the only thing I'm sure of; that I'm conscious of something. but we can never know the thing as it really is, since consciousness changes the very thing being perceived. Objects do not exist separate from their being known, according to the Consciousness Only theory. Bit of a silly theory then. It looks like consciousness wasn't around before life on this planet* so what was the universe doing before that? The consciousness first idea was formulated long before modern cosmology got its shit together, so maybe it shouldn't be relied upon? It isn't like it can incorporate new ideas like evolution and remain credible. Unless it's true and everyone else is wrong.... *Or for at least 5 billion years after the big bang for the stellar processes to create enough complex matter to make conscious things elsewhere. According to Harris , there is no evidence that consciousness exists in the physical world. I'm part of the physical world and it exists in me. "I believe that this notion of emergence is incomprehensible—rather like a naive conception of the big bang. The idea that everything (matter, space-time, their antecedent causes, and the very laws that govern their emergence) simply sprang into being out of nothing seems worse than a paradox. " Sam Harris on the Mystery of Consciousness: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-mystery-of-consciousness http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-mystery-of-consciousness
