--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peter seems to be talking about something else. He > > has explained > > waking state and enlightenment to be two different > > things I have > > earlier asked him how he on daily basis manages to > > alternate between > > waking state and enlightenment? But I have got no > > answer. > > Also many times earlier when I have commented on his > > "no I" posts he > > has not bothered to respond to me. > > There two reasons why I tend not to take these > discussions too far with you. We are coming from two > very different conceptual systems. I try to stick to > MMY's model of the 7 states. I'm not sure what > conceptual model you are coming from.
I appreciate your point on one level -- the necessity of translating words used into connotations meant. But all words and concepts are just markers. Its like listening to two different poets and saying, "I don't like the second one because he uses symbolism and metaphors that I am not used to." Part of the joy of discussion Experience is seeing new markers to "desribe it" new ways others see it. I don't see why this is a "problem" that should halt discussion. > You also become > insulting in your responses to me. Again, similar to earlier "bummer" post, I have to laugh at someone allegedly with "no-I" being "insulted". What exactly is being insulted? What exactly is feeling insulted? The social Peter is insulted. SO WHAT? Its sort of like one hand clappng in the forest with no one around to hear (yes, I know .. a combined analogy). It like Krishna, lord of all cows, crying over a few drops of spilt milk. If the Self is Full in the Self, what can be taken away? I don't get why insults are insulting. I mean "serious" ones -- not the banter (often between guys) that keeps egos in checks -- and can sometime be expressions of wit supreme. Personal insults (intended as insults, not jokes) to me are increasingly funny, sometimes hilarious. Thats why I bother to diologue with Off. I can always get a good round of insults, by just making almost any neutral statement or citing some innocent fact or quote. He often keeps me laughing long after the post. SBS used to love insults. You know the reason. And the ironic thing is, perhaps they are not even "insults" -- not meant that way, but simply your interpretation of fairly neutral words on paper, that you interpret as insulting. I know that has happened in some of our convos. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
