> biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's program!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:

Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of

Yeah, on my siddhi course w/MMY at the end there was this clamouring 
for people to receive advanced TM techniques from MMY before they 
went home.  He laughed derisively at this and said, "i have just 
given you the key to the universe and you want advanced techniques?"

On that course he gave these great lectures about the patanjali Yoga 
Sutras and the siddhis.  Really great understanding about how you do 
the siddhis in form.  In the sequence of things i am glad he came 
along with this back then.  
You can use the form of Patanjali to all kinds of good end with any 
of the maha vedic mantras or just simple spiritual practice.   The 
same kind of patanjalaic description for how you can meditate is 
taught with Karunamayi also.  It is not like Patanjali is tradmarked 
or MMY taught anything new.  He definitely packaged it.  

As for the long decline, it was very much in his hands as he 
dismantled the teaching organization back in 1977 that had become so 
effective to that point.  He (MMY) made the decision to supplant the 
whole thing with the chaos of the returning vedic atoms from those 
early TM-siddhi 'governor training' courses (mid & late 70's).  It 
was a monumental decision which was very human and all his.  I was 
there and watched him do it.  It was pretty clearly a whim that was 
a bad administrative choice of his.  Yes, he traded the old TMorg as 
a teaching org. for a series of cash cows of what then became the 
intervening years of the TMorg.  From then it really became about 
real estate and profit-centers for him.  The great teacher?

Jai Guru Dev,  -Doug

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > snip
> > 
> > > The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the 
> > MMY was
> > > propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the 
> > details of that
> > > whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip 
> > India
> > > during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the 
> > Westerners. So
> > > Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began 
> > experimenting on
> > > half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this 
> > from one of
> > > them). The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect 
> > out when
> > > Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in 
> the 
> > UK in
> > > which one of the slogans was "you can be one of the 99 if you 
> > get one of
> > > your friends to be the one." Square root of 1% came out soon 
> after 
> > the
> > > sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It 
> > still
> > > Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded 
> > research.
> > > In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was 
> > about
> > > before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent 
> countless 
> > hours
> > > discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was 
> > foisted on him
> > > by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots. He 
> was 
> > tickled
> > > pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get 
> 10% 
> > of the
> > > world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't 
> > this
> > > particular point has much to do with the failure of the 
> > Although
> > > the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable 
> folks 
> > who were
> > > beginning to take it seriously.
> > 
> > Thanks Rick, for the History lesson, I needed it. At any rate, 
> > really 
> > supports my contention that MMY has rested the entire welfare of 
> the 
> > TMorg's success on these bogus studies!! It's psuedo-science, it 
> > hasn't been proven satisfactorily. Remember.."thru the window of 
> > science".  We might as well replace Guru Dev's picture with that 
> > the greatest scientest of our age, the great John Hagelin!!  
> > biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's 
> >
> Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of 
> course...

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