Then the assholes in Seelisberg started trying to impose their Fascist ideas on everyone
On 10/26/2014 6:54 AM, Michael Jackson [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Wait a minute!! You mean the course structure you are describing was NOT the way it was done in the early days!?!?!
/You are not even making any sense. So, you're saying the residence courses you attended in 1974 in the U.S. were NOT as described by Barry in Europe? I just can't imagine being on a residence course and not being allowed ///by Gene Spiegel /to run across the street for a drink - no wonder your step father got upset and quit. Go figure./

I started TM in 1974 and the structure you describe is exactly the way all of the residence courses were done that I ever took. I must say however that I enjoyed every single one of them except for one I did on John's Island (off the coast of South Carolina) a Catholic retreat center called the St. Christopher's Conference Center and I didn't enjoy it because it was taught by that goddamn Gene Spiegel, a transplanted Yankee who was in charge of what was then the Area Capitol of Atlanta. Talk about an abrasive, arrogant abusive son of a bitch. He is the reason my mother and step father quit doing TM.

Other than that I enjoyed all my residence courses, especially the ones at St. Ignatius House outside of Atlanta. That is the one the Movement got kicked out of after the Catholics got wind of the siddhis. Hee heee! But it was nice while it lasted. Enjoyed the residence courses MUCH more than I ever did any of the WPA's I did later after getting the siddhis.

*From:* "TurquoiseBee [FairfieldLife]" <>
*To:* "" <>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Scorpion Renegades

Ah, flashbacks to when TM was actually fun. I used to teach a lot of residence courses, back in Toronto and all over the West Coast of the US, and before the TMO turned into the Reichstag and tried to turn residence courses into concentration camps.

It really *was* nice arranging for good food, comfortable facilities, a *few* audio or video tapes, and then a number of prepared advanced lectures and discussions, plus plenty of time to enjoy the solitude, take walks and enjoy what a "retreat" is really supposed to be all about.

Then the assholes in Seelisberg started trying to impose their Fascist ideas on everyone, and started creating "rules and regulations" that teachers of these courses were required to follow. A "buddy system" so that no one was ever allowed to be alone unless they were in their rooms meditating. Yeah, THAT's a sane idea for someone who has paid money for a retreat to allow them to get away and experience what it's like to be alone with themselves for a weekend.

Next the participants weren't allowed to leave the facilities. They couldn't go into town, or drive a car, or go out for a dessert, even if the restaurant was across the street.

Finally, the schedules for these courses began to be "padded out" so that the participants were not allowed even a moment of free time. Every moment was accounted for -- they had to either be eating, meditating and "doing program," or on an official Walk And Talk while in the company of their buddy, or sitting in a room watching a videotape of Maharishi trying to sell them something.

No *wonder* these guys are still in business and still attracting students to attend their retreats. They understood why people liked them in the first place.

*From:* salyavin808 <>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:35 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Scorpion Renegades

---In, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

Hey Sal, you ever do any rounding in this joint?

Nope, I never met any of the teachers there either. They were leaving just as I started working for HQ. In fact I was on the conference call when they started complaining about Marshy's new pricing scheme, it was my first glimpse of collective coherence or "field independence" as the case may be ;-)

Nice building though, I know TMers who go on courses there (shock, horror. They only tell me about it under dire injunctions of silence) and who enjoy the non-movementness of it all. This is what TM is all about for me, weekends in stately homes with good food and company and no Bevan Morris and John Hagelin in sight, cosy and fun and not too religious - that's how it should have stayed.

The MT are cheap though and they are successful, maybe those things are coincident but they don't have anything (or anyone) to put you off, the last official introduction tape I saw was appalling. It had the usual mood-making bliss bunnies in suits going on and on about vedic "science" and sthapatya veda even! It put me off and I'd been doing it 15 years at the time, can't imagine what newbies thought about it.
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