On 11/9/2014 8:23 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Thanks Richard,

I'd enjoy hearing someone talk about why TM is "lite" meditation, and why "their" form of meditation is so much better.
/In reality there's no "TM" - that's just a acronym made up by Jerry. Everyone meditates every time they use their minds to think. There's really only one meditation and that is Life itself - what it does to you and what you do back./

But I've a feeling, I may be waiting a while for that. It may not be something they want to defend.

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On 11/8/2014 5:18 PM, steve.sundur@... <mailto:steve.sundur@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    wouldn't ya just love to hear a definition of "real mediation"

    anyone want to step to the plate?


    1. to think calm thoughts in order to
    relax or as a religious activity:
    Sophie meditates for 20 minutes every

    2. to think seriously about something
    for a long time: He meditated on the
    consequences of his decision.


    Cambridge University Dictionary/

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    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <turquoiseb@...>
    <mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote :

    Anyone ignorant enough to post that Huxley was unfamiliar with
    meditation (see jr post below) has clearly never read his best
    novel, "Island." Huxley was practicing real meditation decades
    before Maharishi invented his faux version and called it TM.

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    Good point.  According to Wikipedia, Huxley had association with
    the Vendanta society:

        Association with Vedanta[edit

    Beginning in 1939 and continuing until his death in 1963, Huxley
    had an extensive association with the Vedanta Society of Southern
    founded and headed by Swami Prabhavananda
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Prabhavananda>. Together with
    Gerald Heard <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Heard>,
    Christopher Isherwood
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Isherwood>, and other
    followers he was initiated by the Swami and was taught meditation
    and spiritual practices.^[3]

    In 1944, Huxley wrote the introduction to the "Bhagavad Gita: The
    Song of God",^[22]
    translated by Swami Prabhavanada and Christopher Isherwood, which
    was published by The Vedanta Society of Southern California.
    From 1941 until 1960, Huxley contributed 48 articles to /Vedanta
    and the West/, published by the Society. He also served on the
    editorial board with Isherwood, Heard, and playwright John van
    Druten from 1951 through 1962.
    Huxley also occasionally lectured at the Hollywood and Santa
    Barbara Vedanta temples. Two of those lectures have been released
    on CD: /Knowledge and Understanding/ and /Who Are We/ from 1955.
    After the publication of /The Doors of Perception
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception>/, Huxley
    and the Swami disagreed about the meaning and importance of the
    LSD drug experience, which may have caused the relationship to
    cool, but Huxley continued to write articles for the Society's
    journal, lecture at the temple, and attend social functions. His
    agnosticism, together with his speculative propensity, made it
    difficult for him to fully embrace any form of institutionalized
    religion.^Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Aldous Huxley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Aldous Leonard Huxley /ˈhʌksli/ (26 July 1894 – 22 November 1963)
    was an English writer, philosopher and a prominent member of the
    Huxley family...
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    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
    <mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

    What about the Vedanta Society? What about Paramahansa Yogananda?
    Arthur Avalon? Not to mention relatively unknowns who probably
    migrated to the UK and taught yoga.

            On 11/07/2014 05:49 PM, jr_esq@... <mailto:jr_esq@...>
            [FairfieldLife] wrote:


    Huxley didn't appear to know about the advantages of meditation.
     Obviously, during his lifetime, TM was not around then.

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    <mailto:s3raphita@...> wrote :

    Aldous Huxley quote (1931):

    "So far as I can see, the only possible new pleasure would be
    one derived from the invention of a new drug — of a more
    efficient and less harmful substitute for alcohol and cocaine.
    If I were a millionaire, I should endow a band of research
    workers to look for the ideal intoxicant. If we could sniff or
    swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day,
    abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows
    in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its
    aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and
    significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were
    of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear
    head and an undamaged constitution — then, it seems to me, all
    our problems (and not merely the one small problem of
    discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth
    would become paradise."

    Sounds great - but I suspect that humans are so constituted that
    changing our brains with chemicals is always going to have
    unwanted side-effects.

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    <fleetwood_macncheese@...> <mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :

    I used to buy Ritalin over the counter, in Macau, and did a fair
    amount - Yuck. Couldn't get weed, but any big pharma drug was
    there for the taking. Bad situation.

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    <mailto:s3raphita@...> wrote :

    Re "Cocaine DEFINITELY sucks":

    Amen to that. Like you I only tried it a few times and the
    after-effects were a warning I heeded. Ditto speed.

    God knows what I'd have felt like after a methamphetamine binge
    (the drug of choice today) - pretty sure I'd be suicidal.

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