On 11/26/2014 1:05 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
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he left them alone because he was morally bankrupt - a liar, womanizer, thief and con artist and flim flam man.
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/Good work MJ - this message should really impress the newbies!/
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*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:02 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'

Thank you. Yep - Maharishi was probably wise to leave alone any sort of moral precepts, as he wanted the TM technique available as widely as possible, vs. taking on the various religious creeds. As desires become more comprehensive, these enemies must be faced anyway, and resolved, so that further growth is possible.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Fleetwood-Nice quote, the real Jihad is the inner one, though that is accomplished by the inner AND outer disciplines. This is the REAL teaching of Yoga as defined by SBS and loosely referred to by MMY.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :

Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about "the six enemies" (aka "stress"):

"In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies.

The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed.

This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened."

Jai Guru Dev


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote :

Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know.

Samskaras are stress.

The term doṣa literally means "contamination" but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc..

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas).

These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.






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