---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Salyavin, a big irony for me is that now you and turq want to do to Richard, what some former members wanted to do to you two. That is, boot you out of the group! It's not really an irony because I don't post here just to annoy people. People may be annoyed at what I have to say about their beliefs etc but that's hardly my fault. I am never offended by theirs. If Willy was to man up and defend his beliefs with a reasoned argument instead of Ad Hominem attacks and his usual pathetic attempts at trolling then we'd all get along fine. But he just can't cope with the fact I am different to him and that is his problem not mine. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Share, I find it interesting that Anartaxius tried to "talk some sense into you" just after I did, and with the same bottom-line request -- take it off line. Richard is USING your naivete and Pollyanna blissninnyness to FUCK UP FFL. THAT is all he's interested in doing. YOU are his accomplice. NO ONE ELSE falls for his shit any more. It's only you. You're not helping HIM by responding to his trolling, and you're hurting the forum you claim to like. It really is time for you to wise up a bit. And on another, more fundamental level, it may be time for Rick to respond to Richard trying to destroy Fairfield Life by suggesting (enforcing) his move over to The_Peak. If you actually believe he's innocent and well-meaning in the things he posts, Share, you should have no problems with him being forced to post them over there, rather than here. I think that would be great, and pretty much the ultimate "Karma, dude." I agree totally, Willy has somewhere else to go and talk to people he obviously prefers. The only reason he sticks around here is to annoy people. Trolling by definition. I support the call for him to make the shift into Jim's site, unwillingly if necessary, let them endure his company if they've accepted him. But Share is unlikely to ever reach a realistic opinion about him, I suspect he likes having her to protect and she overlooks his trolling as "zaniness" Each to their own I suppose... It used to be fun having him as our pet retard to point to whenever you wanted a wake up call about the dangers of cult delusion, but now he's the only asshole here I really think it would be for his own good not to stand out so much. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, it sounds like you and turq are concerned about FFL and so would like me and Richard to continue discussing the porn site issue elsewhere. To that end, you would like me to take your opinions of Richard into consideration. And I think you have a good insight about how Richard and I are similar. What is strange for me about your analysis of me is that here in FF I am considered very un Pollyannish. Certainly compared to many others in FF. Some people here walk around smiling all the time, which I do not. And I tend to have an attitude of "it's all grist for the mill" and that it's a funny, old life. These are not the dominant memes of your typical FF bliss ninny! It could simply be that compared to some others on FFL I seem hyper positive. But I know myself to be grounded and certainly far from hyper positive and if FFLers knew me in person, that would be clear. This limitation of online relationships is, I think, almost always influencing how I post here. Meaning that I don't expect online relationships to be genuine friendships. I think people have to know one another in 3D life to be genuine friends. So though I care about the people here, and wish the best for everyone, I don't think any of us can know each other fully and deeply just from these online exchanges. Consequently, I don't tend to share my own journeys into the heart of darkness. Given the limits of time and attention, I am guided by the intention to be of benefit as best as I can. And to enjoy myself in the process. IMO, life is too short to do otherwise. Share, I did not listen to the Hammond event. I have been reading Curtis' reports. I am basically ignoring Hammond because I do not think he is all there. Richard however is pointlessly prolonging this thing about Barry, already long past. Like Barry has expressed, I think Richard has sucked you into his world and that you do not have sufficient discrimination to see what is happening. Barry can be mean, no doubt of that, but Richard is wallowing in it in a very unhealthy way. FFL is for adults but not an 'adult site' in the way that term is normally pejoratively used and Richard is trying to skew the sense of what goes on here, which you seem to think is funny because you are air-headed in a good natured, but unperceptive way. I think of Richard as strangely devious. Barry is normally absolutely direct. I would much rather deal with Mr. Enlightened Flanegin than Richard because he is also direct in his clumsy and sometimes dismissive way. The only time I have seen you really sharpen up was when when you got in a huff over things Judy said to you and you responded like a normal human being. Your Pollyanna* act is hard to take sometimes. *'Pollyanna is a best-selling 1913 novel by Eleanor H. Porter. The title character is named Pollyanna Whittier, a young orphan who goes to live in Beldingsville, Vermont, with her wealthy but stern and cold spinster Aunt Polly, who does not want to take in Pollyanna, but feels it is her duty to her late sister. Pollyanna's philosophy of life centers on what she calls "The Glad Game," an optimistic attitude she learned from her father. The game consists of finding something to be glad about in every situation. It originated in an incident one Christmas when Pollyanna, who was hoping for a doll in the missionary barrel, found only a pair of crutches inside. Making the game up on the spot, Pollyanna's father taught her to look at the good side of things—in this case, to be glad about the crutches because "we didn't need to use them!"' 'With this philosophy, and her own sunny personality and sincere, sympathetic soul, Pollyanna brings so much gladness to her aunt's dispirited New England town that she transforms it into a pleasant place to live. The Glad Game shields her from her aunt's stern attitude: when Aunt Polly puts her in a stuffy attic room without carpets or pictures, she exults at the beautiful view from the high window; when she tries to "punish" her niece for being late to dinner by sentencing her to a meal of bread and milk in the kitchen with the servant Nancy, Pollyanna thanks her rapturously because she likes bread and milk, and she likes Nancy.' As a result, it seems like you are escaping and avoiding when people like Barry are actually trying to connect with you in a positive way. I think you are the only one here where Barry has made a real attempt to genuinely break through that Pollyanna shell you project. I almost think it frustrates him. It's like at a carnival where you throw a ball, or some rings at a target and it is rigged so almost always, the ball bounces back or the ring misses and the prize is lost. Things thrown your way bounce off, but always with the feeling of superficial and inconsequential connection, as if you are not really there as an intelligence that apprehends and ascertains. Perhaps that is why you and Richard have linked up, because Richard does not seem to connect with anyone in a legitimate way. I sort of see why the mean girls club ragged on you so much. Seeing the good in everything is not the same as acting as if everything is good and of no consequential import. Seeing the good in everything is seeing and understanding how the universe flows and how those flows fit together, and sometimes that means seeing into the heart of darkness, and the places in our own mind we would rather not visit. But if we visit them consciously, we eventually sail past them into still, imperturbable waters. Why not do the conversation with Richard in private where it is less likely to endanger FFL? From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Xeno, Curtis has posted something very cool about the Hammond event. Why not focus on replying to that and simply ignore me and Richard? Wouldn't that be more logical? From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Richard and Share Maybe you should take this conversation over to the_Peak. We would prefer to discuss something more important here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Richard, your second paragraph about turq posting all the porn he wants just had me laughing my head off. Then laughing my head off at my own thought: can't wait! Obviously I've lost it, whatever it is (-: From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stop The Porn, was Fairfield and M. Effect On 12/1/2014 10:32 AM, Share Long wrote: > turq, thanks for explaining. But would it be so awful if FFL was an "adults only" site? > We are all adults here, Share, so it makes since to make this an adult site. That way, Barry could post all the porn he wanted to - pornographic text messages, slang words for masturbation, pirated photos of rodents humping, photo-shopped images of transvestites, and even cartoons of Lord Buddha with gender bias captions using the "c" word. I don't know what his problem is, he is after all the "Uncle Tantra" and the "TurquoiseBee." Cognitive dissonance I guess. Now he's trying to prove he's an offended prude and porn-free - as if he has never posted anything that would offend. Which is kind of weird, seeing as how seven FFL members just quit the group because of his smutty language. Go figure. But, you need to watch out - the last time Barry joked and chatted with a female on FFL, he reported her to Interpol and the Dutch police. Obviously he is monitoring our conversations. > TurquoiseB wrote: > Share, I'm going to take the trouble to explain something to you that it is possible you don't understand, being a relative newcomer to Fairfield Life. Richard'spost to Rick saying that FFL is a porn site was *not* a joke, and *not* friendly, given events in the past. In that past, a disgruntled FFL poster, angered over something petty, stalked off in a snit and then posted some questionable sexually-explicit photos and/or text to FFL himself, and then went to Yahoo Administrators to "blow the whistle" and get them to declare FFL an "Adult Only" site. As I understand it, Rick and Alex had to jump through hoops to get Yahoo to understand that this was an exercise in cyberterrorism by this disgruntled asshole, and allow FFL to remain at its current status. Richard made his post fully aware of this history, and thus fully aware of what he was trying to accomplish by calling FFL a "porn site." If you didn't know this, it might have been possible for you to see Richard's actions as a joke. Now that you do, I don't see how you possibly can. He was attempting to use the charge that FFL was a porn site to possibly get the site either taken down or moved to a much more prohibitive status. He was being as much of a cyberterrorist as the original asshole was.
