Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

[Vaj]

On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:42 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:42 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: [...] I *think* what you're describing is not turiya but an integrated state, what TM would call "witnessing," in meditation.  But then your comment above that I wasn't describing turiya makes no sense. You seem to be confusing the fourth pranayama with turiya. The fourth pranayama is not taught in TM. True, but perhaps it can be interpreted that the "fourth  pranayama" converges to what TMers call "transcendental consciousness" since  the description of "Breath suspension" during TM's "pure  consciousness" state seems to be identical to descriptions of the fourth  pranayama. That experience is a helpful prerequisite for learning the fourth   pranayama. So what does it mean when people "witness" in the TM sense for years  on end? Attachment to an idea of enlightenment which ego is glad to provide. Go tell all your friends. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.