--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > I think it can be understood using the concept of > dharma. Within the context of waking state there is a > foundational dharma of individual responsibility > because there is so clearly a phenomenological "I" > that is "me". One engages in spiritual practices to > "integrate being" etc., etc.. Then "something happens" > and the Self wakes-up to what it has already been. Now > the dharma has shifted because there is no "I" present > and the perspectiveless perspective is quite different > from the perspective of "I" in waking state. > Everything just happens and it is self-evident that it > has always occured this way. > > For me "enlightenment" can be described as a radical shift in the functioning of the brain.Prior to enlightenment the brain created the expereince of an individual self and then as a result of long term meditation or some other process the brain stops creating this expereince.In the absence of an expereince of an individual self there is a state of conciousness in which there is no sense whatsoever of "someone"doing something.Nonetheless doing/action goes on.This is because the existence of the body/mind and its functions does not (in the mature adult)depend on the experience of an individual self.I think you can actually make a pretty good arguement that except for the particular brain involved very little of any significance occurs ie for the world at large when"enlightenment" takes place.IMHO the term enlightenment would nore appropriately be used to describe someone whose behavior reflects traits which are commonly associated with higher human functioning eg compassion,creativity etc.Kevin > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
