---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
I'm thinking of having a yagya done for myself due to the transit of Rahu in Leo. Do you have to be present at the temple? Or can you stay at home at the time the yagya is being performed? A few years ago I attended a yagya done for a friend in a temple in Sunnyvale, CA. It was an elaborate ritual which included offering seeds dipped in ghee onto the fire and dancing around the fire as the priest invoked the mantras. Good for you. You show those naysayers. Pay your money, sit back and enjoy the ride. That's what I say. While some are watching the newest installment of some TV series and another is baking a batch of croissants and while still someone else is filling their test tubes and dabbing microscopic specimens on petri dishes you go right ahead and do your thing. Each to his own. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : I had a yagya performed once for me. It was not a TM yagya but performed by the Hindu temple in Livermore in the SF Bay Area. I happened to be there with a friend before Indian new year and they offered put visitors on the yagya list for the new year. It only cost $55. I wasn't expecting anything but was an effect for awhile. On 05/09/2016 09:26 AM, feste37 wrote: I am probably one of the few people here who would venture to remark that (and this is based on my own experience), yagyas work, although the ones done for me were not done through the TMO. What intrigues me about Salyavin's tirades is his claim that the TMO actually does not even perform the yagyas people pay them to do. I have not heard this before and wonder how anyone would know that it is true. It is one thing to say the yagyas do not work, but quite another to claim that they are never even performed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote : yeah, very strange. These people have become bitterly disappointed at their experiences regarding TM, and so, "attempt to spread the truth about TM and the org behind it" and "save" others. There is not a nickel's worth of space between that expression and the Christian fundamentalists - same psychological mistake; transference. They cannot accept that they didn't get it, and so turn on those who are experiencing a benefit, blind to the fact that any issue is with themselves, and not the TM or TMO, or practitioners of TM. This is in no way a defense of the TM Org, which has a lot of issues. But there are ways of tackling a problem productively, and there is empty complaining. As you say, we are all adults, and nobody appreciates a bunch of blowhards trumpeting the same hollow message, that they know the real truth about TM and the TMO and are here to enlighten the rest of us. What rubbish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Strange, ain't it. Someone, in this case, Salyavin, feeling they need to save someone from themselves. As if there is not abundant information to peruse ! with regard to the TM movement such that Salyavin feels the impassioned need to take on the role. What becomes a little weird is that there is no difference from this attitude and the fundamentalist attitude that "they" (the fundamentalist) knows what's best for another, and therefore makes it a mission to convert "the other". And then, you must ask, where does it end. The title of this autobiography is, "How I Became a Tyrant" ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote ! : I figure most of those investing in or tooting the horn for yagya donations are grown adults who can decide if they want to spend their money on chanting or on a fitbit or the latest VW convertible. But can they decide? When you're embroiled in a cult you can really start to believe what they tell you as I'm sure you're aware. Obviously it's up to people to become scientifically aware and think their way out of the stupidity before it bankrupts them or they end up moving to a town where this sort of excuse for thinking is taken so much for granted that it becomes a given rather than the utterly astonishing load of pseudo-scientific nonsense that it actually is. Grown ups can believe anything they like, but if people you know are habitually throwing their money into a hole in the ground - or in this case real estate in Florida - when they think they are creating some sort of peace creating group of Indian chanters the we owe it to them to darw it to their attention or we aren't very good friends. If you knew someone who was being scammed by a devious pension plan wouldn't you tell them if you knew? Yet the TMO gets many millions from selling prayers and all the while setting up a pseudo-scientific justification in the shape of Marshy's crap lectures about the unified field and continuing with John Hagelin's equally crap videos about string theory. It's a deliberate attempt to mis-sell something. The funny thing is they claim to be interested in science and yet they never put any of the more dubious products on the TM price list under any sort of serious scrutiny. Now, this discussion about Nader and how he could possibly have so much money (how much does he have? ! ) seems like many are jumping to conclusions about his guilt with regard to the Movement handing over millions of dollars to him for some reason. Why would they do this? Is he worth that much to them? I don't know Nader from a hole in the ground other than, I believe, he possesses a gold outfit complete with crown in his closet. I suggest people get some hard facts before proclaiming his guilt from the rooftops. BTW, where did you get your information? Judy seems to think that is important and you didn't answer that question in your response here. Judy has consistently demonstrated that she is an idiot to the extent that I never read her posts. She knows as well as I do where all this information about King Tony comes from. Is there another explanation for the wealth of the Nader family other than the TMO setting him up as some sort of world leader in waiting? If there is I haven't seen it, as he's a public figure appointed by Marshy to be the hereditary ruler of his domain I think we are owed an explanation. But I don't trust the TMO about money for the reasons I have stated. Nonprofit Financial Statements - FindLaw http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/incorporation-and-legal-str%21%0A%20uctures/nonprofit-financial-statements.html Nonprofit Financial Statements - FindLaw Question: Do 501(c)(3) non-profit corporations have to make their financial statements available to the public? Answer: Yes. Non-profit corporations ... View on smallbusiness.findlaw... Preview by Yahoo -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote : http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum. salyavin808 wri! tes: This is the TMO doing what it does best. Soliciting donations for it's "world plan for world peace, bringing enlightenment and prosperity to all nations" and then spending it all on real estate. They have big plans you see, the idea has always a world wide network of palaces and embassies for the "rajas", but no one would pay for that directly so they get you with the old "pundit program" scam, it still seems to work, get a maniac like John Hagelin to make it all sound scientific with a video about string theory, and everyone will think it's valid in some sort of demonstrable way, Before you know it the millions are rolling in from the hopeful flock who have been brainwashed for decades with crap about vedas and physics and now vedas and physiology. I do remember them saying that they'd give refunds in future if the "peace creating" pundit groups didn't happen. Well they didn't h! appen, not even slightly. This recent layout of funds on big houses for the bigwigs gives the lie to that. It should be obvious that not even they believe all that "coherence creating" bullshit, the question is: What are TMers going to do about it? (Message over 64 KB, truncated)