---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : I figure most of those investing in or tooting the horn for yagya donations are grown adults who can decide if they want to spend their money on chanting or on a fitbit or the latest VW convertible. But can they decide? Sorry, I wanted to get back to this but was busy for the last few days enjoying the Island I live on - walking suspension bridges, biking, eating delicious local food, celebrating my 28th wedding anniversary and generally falling in love with British Columbia all over again. But I am back now. So, you ask me if your friends can decide. Sure they can, they did and they have and they will continue to do so. You decide to meditate twice a day. You decide to take a bike ride, eat a pastrami sandwich, watch the telly. Do you need someone to tell you not to? Do you want your friends to suggest the pastrami is bad for your heart or that the bike ride might result in your demise? You're a big boy, you have the right to decide these things for yourself just as they can decide if they want to lay out their money to have someone sing to the universe on their behalf. Who are you to decide what is best for them, what will make them happy? What does it really matter if it works or not? Seriously. You just seem to resent the fact that someone is making money off of your friends' choices to have a prayer sung for them. Is it really any different from paying for that prescription that may or may not cure your psoriasis? For some the pills might clear it up but for others it might do nothing. Does this mean the drug is useless, some sort of placebo? Not necessarily. You just have a hard on for the Movement and that is fine but my advice (which is the last thing you're asking for) is to realize no matter how much you rail against them and try and convince others they are throwing their money away your voice will be unheard and unheeded by those who believe/think differently. When you're embroiled in a cult you can really start to believe what they tell you as I'm sure you're aware. Sure, but I also know there is still a choice. It's not like any cult can actually lobotomize you. You are still a free agent. It just took me a while to recognize what was going on around Robin through months of looking and seeing and hearing what was happening during the end of things, when it all got crazier than ever. Then it took me rebelling, openly, at the group and getting kicked around again which opened my eyes wider and when that happened I went hell-bent to try and open everyone else's eyes including going to the local rag and exposing everything. None of them listened to me at the time but the 5 part newspaper series seriously disrupted the thing and they all scattered, some losing their jobs, Robin leaving town. So, in the end I created enough shit to break it up but it wasn't really me. It was many things coming together all at once. Obviously it's up to people to become scientifically aware and think their way out of the stupidity before it bankrupts them or they end up moving to a town where this sort of excuse for thinking is taken so much for granted that it becomes a given rather than the utterly astonishing load of pseudo-scientific nonsense that it actually is. These people you know will not ever become "scientifically aware". They don't care about any science. They simply want a result from what it is they believe in. Grown ups can believe anything they like, but if people you know are habitually throwing their money into a hole in the ground - or in this case real estate in Florida - when they think they are creating some sort of peace creating group of Indian chanters the we owe it to them to darw it to their attention or we aren't very good friends. You don't know for a fact that our Raja friend is being financed by your friends' yagyas. That is pure conjecture. If I was a yagya enabler I would insist you provide me with concrete proof before I were to consider changing my mind. Jamesalan's dinner date didn't strike me as someone who was believable - her assertions were preposterous. I'm not that gullible to believe the Movement is going to make our dear Doctor as rich or as "royal" as King Charles. C'mon, you have to laugh. Talk about unscientific "evidence". If you knew someone who was being scammed by a devious pension plan wouldn't you tell them if you knew? Absolutely, and I have. Many times. There are some very unsavory and unscrupulous horse trainers in this town and I do more than my part to make sure anyone who will listen, and many won't, know the deal. As much as I'd like to drive these asshats out of business, for every person who I can warn away there is another who will give them their business. That's the way it is. Yet the TMO gets many millions from selling prayers and all the while setting up a pseudo-scientific justification in the shape of Marshy's crap lectures about the unified field and continuing with John Hagelin's equally crap videos about string theory. It's a deliberate attempt to mis-sell something. The funny thing is they claim to be interested in science and yet they never put any of the more dubious products on the TM price list under any sort of serious scrutiny. I don't know, back in the days of the dinosaurs when I was actually involved, they at least had everyone wired up to EEG's to measure brain waves. Other than that, I am out of the loop with whatever else they have tried to prove their theories with in terms of scientific evidence. You see, I don't care. None of it is part of my life now. Now, this discussion about Nader and how he could possibly have so much money (how much does he have? ) seems like many are jumping to conclusions about his guilt with regard to the Movement handing over millions of dollars to him for some reason. Why would they do this? Is he worth that much to them? I don't know Nader from a hole in the ground other than, I believe, he possesses a gold outfit complete with crown in his closet. I suggest people get some hard facts before proclaiming his guilt from the rooftops. BTW, where did you get your information? Judy seems to think that is important and you didn't answer that question in your response here. Judy has consistently demonstrated that she is an idiot to the extent that I never read her posts. Judy may be some things, but an "idiot" is not one of them. In fact, she has a mind that is pretty formidable. Whether you like what she does with that mind of hers or not is not cause to think of her as idiotic. That is rather unobservant of you and a mistake that makes me question your judgement (among other tendencies of yours). I believe she likes to use that brain of hers and I know she does utilize it, in all sorts of ways, not just playing around on forums. One of those ways is to call others on their hypocrisy, their trollishness, their lack of integrity. It's just that you like and agree with those who she questions or calls out - hence your moniker "idiot". Do you think you would be capable of recognizing/acknowledging intelligence in someone you disagree with? She knows as well as I do where all this information about King Tony comes from. Is there another explanation for the wealth of the Nader family other than the TMO setting him up as some sort of world leader in waiting? I can think of lots of explanations but you seem blindsided by your closed mind. There are more alternative explanations than the one you are obsessing about. The odds are that one of the alternatives are correct - it is simply statistics. He is a highly trained professional in a field that actually pays money. Being in possession of a few million dollars is not that unusual. Go for the simplest explanation, the most logical and I don't think the one that has the TM Movement giving him tens of millions of dollars to set him up as "some sort of world leader in waiting" is it. If there is I haven't seen it, as he's a public figure appointed by Marshy to be the hereditary ruler of his domain I think we are owed an explanation. But I don't trust the TMO about money for the reasons I have stated. You are only owed an explanation if it is your money they are giving away. From the sounds of it, you don't give them money any more. So, why not relax? Nonprofit Financial Statements - FindLaw http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/incorporation-and-legal-structures/nonprofit-financial-statements.html http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/incorporation-and-legal-structures/nonprofit-financial-statements.html Nonprofit Financial Statements - FindLaw http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/incorporation-and-legal-structures/nonprofit-financial-statements.html Question: Do 501(c)(3) non-profit corporations have to make their financial statements available to the public? Answer: Yes. Non-profit corporations ... View on smallbusiness.findlaw... http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/incorporation-and-legal-structures/nonprofit-financial-statements.html Preview by Yahoo -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum. salyavin808 writes: This is the TMO doing what it does best. Soliciting donations for it's "world plan for world peace, bringing enlightenment and prosperity to all nations" and then spending it all on real estate. They have big plans you see, the idea has always a world wide network of palaces and embassies for the "rajas", but no one would pay for that directly so they get you with the old "pundit program" scam, it still seems to work, get a maniac like John Hagelin to make it all sound scientific with a video about string theory, and everyone will think it's valid in some sort of demonstrable way, Before you know it the millions are rolling in from the hopeful flock who have been brainwashed for decades with crap about vedas and physics and now vedas and physiology. I do remember them saying that they'd give refunds in future if the "peace creating" pundit groups didn't happen. Well they didn't happen, not even slightly. This recent layout of funds on big houses for the bigwigs gives the lie to that. It should be obvious that not even they believe all that "coherence creating" bullshit, the question is: What are TMers going to do about it? I'm sure you all received the letter I did recently, about doubling your monthly donation for the yagya programme? Bet you didn't think it was going on flying lessons for the King, expensive jeweller for his wife, or expensive - and non TM - schools for their kids. Keep the money rolling in, Heaven on Earth awaits. Just not for you.... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Tonight's Phone Call with Maharaja Rajaraam Enjoy an Evening with Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam Extra seating will be available in Festival Hall We are looking forward to the phone call from Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam during Lesson Two of the Ramayan in Human Physiology Course this evening. Everyone is invited. This event is free, and you can come even if you missed Lesson One. It starts at 7:45in Dalby Hall. We expect lots of people, so please come early. Extra room is provided in Festival Hall. The first two lessons of the Ramayan in Human Physiology are free and open to the community. Everyone is invited. The prerequisite for the course is instruction in the TM Technique and completion of STC108 or equivalent; or completion of the TM-Sidhis Course and a valid dome badge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Brilliant. Yes, two sides of the same coin, yet not letting go of the coin, which rusted through a long time ago. A dodge and distraction from life's procession. Both the followers and anti-followers create meaning around an object which cannot be perfected nor destroyed, perpetually. A spinning mirror to look into, transfixed, instead of simply dealing with the nature of life and our intimate relationship with it. The mind as the naked emperor, parading in front of its fantasies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yeah, he be the MAHARAJA! I would guess his family has money, especially if he's a doctor and hung out with Maharishi a lot. I doubt he has had to spend much time in an emergency room or maintain a practice fixing up people to pay off student loans. It is very apparent that the guy has money, and it makes sense to me. Why wouldn't a highly educated medical man have made a decent amount of money and has anyone (imagine!) considered that perhaps his wife has a good job? Or maybe there is family money as well. As for some of these other people who became rajas and ranis, I've heard at least one and maybe more had to virtually beg for assistance to pay the million dollar fee. The TM movement is and always been full of idiots. I have my doubts as to whether many could have made it in the real world. I know for a fact they couldn't and didn't. There are so many airy fairy neurotics who crowd into the lineup to see their current favorite guru or who run, feverishly, to jump on some bandwagon that sounds like the next greatest thing. There are many "misfits" and just plain strange human beings on this Earth and we have a small proportion right here on FFL (not to mention over at number 2) who fell into that category and who still appear (as of my last viewing of them before the Great Divide) just as obsessed as ever with the Movement and what it's up to or how they can work out their unresolved feelings about having been screwed by MMY and those who were his "henchmen". You really have to wonder what it would take for many of them to simply move on and make an effort to unencumber themselves from it all. Personally, I sense a kind of addiction - as twisted as it actually is. The irony of it all is many of these obsessors think of themselves as unattached just because they have a negative opinion. It doesn't matter whether one's opinion is negative or positive; as long as you keep obsessing and showing interest you're still very much involved. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote : http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/ I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum.
