--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > What strikes me as odd in these discussions is the
> > degree of hostility. Why do people get so pissed-off
> > if someone talks about some sort of Realization
> > experience? 
> 
> Fear, plain and simple.

I'd agree with fear in the sense of "fear of
losing one's self (small s)."  When someone
writes of an experience they have had, I 
usually get a non-verbal "hit" on what they've
written that has nothing to do with the words.
As Vaj has mentioned with regard to "Advaitaspeak,"
*anyone* can talk the talk.  What I'm looking for
is something that underlies the words that con-
vinces me that the experience the person is 
talking about really happened. That "something,"
for me, can only be felt intuitively.

I guess my point is that I think *everyone* does
the same thing, and feels intuitively which of
the experiences discussed here are real and which
might not be.  And it's that very intuition that
scares the shit out of them when they feel a real
one.  







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