--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > on 12/27/05 2:05 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Although on a Rishikesh TTC, Maharishi did say
> > that you eventually
> > >> do perceive the deity associated with your
> > mantra.
> > > 
> > > Sure.  But is it an actual personified being, or
> > is it
> > > how one's own perception translates the
> > abstraction into
> > > something it can grasp?
> > 
> > I have friends who claim to see and even converse
> > with the personified
> > beings.
> 
> This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely,
> incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when
> it opens-up, but  it really has nothing to do with
> Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the
> practice of samayama, not in the attainment of a
> particular siddhi itself. That really doesn't mean
> anything in the context of Realization. Talking to the
> diety of your mantra is like talking to the bus driver
> who's taking you someplace. Fascinating guy, but
> nothing to do with your destination.
> 
Yep. I had a few of those celestial experiences, and surmised at the 
time that, after realizing existence for what it is, i.e 
Realization, I'd have lots more celestial experiences, and Gee Whiz! 

Instead I have lost most of my interest in such things, for one 
because 'ordinary' life has itself become so fascinating and multi-
dimensional, and also because the celestial experiences are just a 
matter of focus in that direction, and so they blend in when 
necessary vs me seeking them out. 





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