--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely, > > > > > incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when > > > > > it opens-up, but it really has nothing to do with > > > > > Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the > > > > > practice of samayama, not in the attainment of a > > > > > particular siddhi itself. That really doesn't mean > > > > > anything in the context of Realization. Talking to the > > > > > diety of your mantra is like talking to the bus driver > > > > > who's taking you someplace. Fascinating guy, but > > > > > nothing to do with your destination. > > > > > > I've always felt that a fascination with subtle > > > phenomena like this was just an indication of > > > lack of experiences of realization. If one never > > > gets to one's destination, one gets fascinated > > > by the silly tourist attractions along the way. > > > > Its also a matter of perspective. Prior to Realization, I was > > mostly an unhappy person- yep I admit it, after nearly thirty > > years of meditation...So when these special experiences occurred, > > I clung to them to boost my faith, and as life preservers in a > > raging sea of my own making. > > Yup. Exactly what I had in mind. > > > Then when I turned inside out, the experiences that were so > > special in an isolated and linear way, were still special, > > only now on the backdrop of everyday magnificence. > > Well said. For me, after the first experiences > of realization, any fascination I'd had with > "subtle phenomena" such as have been mentioned > here lately lost all appeal. It was like > realizing that I'd been suckered into thinking > the flame of one puny little match was a great > source of light, when the sun had been shining > all along. > On the other hand, I literally ran out of energy a couple of weeks ago, to the point where my friend had to go get me a protein drink. I was lucid, but literally could not move. I felt the angel gabriel enfold me in his wings and comfort me until I could get sustenance, which immediately after drinking it, I was completely restored.
So this is the other side of the coin, that such experiences are available still, only as we need them. Oh, and why the angel gabriel? Don't know- first thing that popped into my head, and there he was... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
