--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think it is safe to say that one could spend an
> >>> entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear
> >>> the concept of one's everyday actions being important
> >>> to the realization of enlightenment. The predominant
> >>> myth has always been "Just meditate, and action will
> >>> take care of itself." (paraphrasing, not quoting)
> >>
> >> Just meditate and perform action in accordance with one's own
> >> culture and religion's moral and ethical values, and
> >> enlightenment will happen (paraphrasing, not quoting).
> >>
> >> "Master, other than meditating, what can we do to attain
> >> enlightenment as fast as possible?"
> >> "Eat when you're hungry; sleep when you're sleepy."
> >>
> >> (quoting, not paraphrasing)
> >
> > Uh...I know that's the party line, but I think the
> > reason this whole topic has arisen is that a number
> > of people suspect that the party line is a bunch of
> > hooey, and that things don't quite work like that.
> >
> > And the *reason* they suspect this is because they
> > have watched the people in the TM movement follow
> > the above party line for 30-40 years without any
> > discernible change in their shitty and uncaring
> > behavior.  :-)
> 
> Having spent log periods of time around other yogic traditions, 
one  
> thing you definitely notice over time in authentic enlightenment  
> traditions is that people tangibly evolve, even at the level of 
the  
> personality. It's really a heartening thing to witness. If you 
notice  
> people each have their own unique presence and manifestation all  
> their own; in people deeply purifying that presence changes. I've  
> seen some of the roughest, harshest people become soft and flexible.
>

So have I. Of course, they aren't in positions of authority at MUM, 
as a for instance...





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