--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it is safe to say that one could spend an
> > > > entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear
> > > > the concept of one's everyday actions being important
> > > > to the realization of enlightenment. The predominant
> > > > myth has always been "Just meditate, and action will
> > > > take care of itself." (paraphrasing, not quoting)
> > > 
> > > Just meditate and perform action in accordance with one's own 
> > > culture and religion's moral and ethical values, and 
> > > enlightenment will happen (paraphrasing, not quoting).
> > > 
> > > "Master, other than meditating, what can we do to attain 
> > > enlightenment as fast as possible?"
> > > "Eat when you're hungry; sleep when you're sleepy."
> > > 
> > > (quoting, not paraphrasing)
> > 
> > Uh...I know that's the party line, but I think the
> > reason this whole topic has arisen is that a number
> > of people suspect that the party line is a bunch of
> > hooey, and that things don't quite work like that.
> 
> That's the ZEN party line, loon.
> 
> > And the *reason* they suspect this is because they
> > have watched the people in the TM movement follow
> > the above party line for 30-40 years without any
> > discernible change in their shitty and uncaring
> > behavior.  :-)
> 
> So does enlightenment guarantee a change in behavior? Seems to me 
> that you have argued quite vigorously that it does not.

You're asking for *consistency* from Barry?  Silly you.
Consistency, as he's often told us, is a sign of retarded
evolution and attachment to one's opinions.






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