> > > > I think you people are missing the point, big-time. > > > > > > > > The very fact that someone should have to take out > > > > a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And > > > > the organization that places the people of the world > > > > in that position are the criminals. > > > > > > ******************* > > > > > > An instruction fee has always been part of Vedic culture. > > > > And that makes it OK? > > > > You people have *really* been trained to accept the > > status quo and praise anything labeled "Vedic," > > haven't you? >> > > No you have been brainwashed and you don't even know it. > You have been brainwashed by Christian culture into beleiveng > that the most good is done if it is charity.
I'll actually address this, just because it's so stupid I think I can have fun doing so. :-) First, although the *dogma* of Christian culture may assert such a thing, in practice, modern Christianity acts in anything *but* a charitable manner. Much of the "born again" movement is based on "Me-first-ism," to the max. It's all about the *individual* having an "experience of Christ," and about the *individual* finding a "relationship with Christ." Very little of the teachings have to do with actually living the way that Christ suggested one should live, in terms of serving one's fellow man. (There are strong exceptions to this, of course, and some of these churches do wonderful work, and I applaud them for doing so.) Second, since I was never a Christian and have always had a strong antipathy to modern Christ- ianity and its culture, it doesn't make a lot of sense to suggest that I'd be brainwashed by it. :-) > This is a false notion and > you are thinking like a child. And you assert that it's "false" based on what? Something you were told by TM teachers who were told what to tell you? :-) You forget sometimes who you are talking to here. We're the people who actually went to TM Teacher Training and were taught to mindlessly repeat the things you're now mindlessly repeating. :-) > You need to start thinking bigger instead of this > inneffective hippy idea of free communes and free > love for all. > This will not work to help the world. Actually, it would. But I don't think I've ever suggested such a thing. What I've suggested is that I believe that the teaching of meditation is *most effective*, FOR ALL CONCERNED, when it is done for free, with the teachers donating their time and/or paying for the teaching process themselves. I base this belief on the subjective experience of having done it that way, having done it the "other" way (the for-profit approach taken by TM and other groups), and on watching the effects of the two different teaching pro- cesses, on both students and teachers. My main reason for believing as I do is that I believe that teaching for free is better *for the teachers*, and that that which is better for them and enables them to stay in a higher state of attention winds up being better for the students as well. But if I understand correctly, you've never taught meditation in *either* context, right? You're just stating that things are FALSE and TRUE based *entirely* on what you've been told by others. Right? :-) :-) :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
