--- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. > > Monks > > > and > > > > > > > > priests have always been paid for their services since > > the > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > of time. Ancient cultures considered these services > > > > paramount > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the most practical thing they could do, and were quite > > > happy > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > materialistic about it, and pay for it, just like you > > > would > > > > > for > > > > > > TV, > > > > > > > > airplanes, buses, internet computer, etc. You just > have > > > your > > > > > > > > priorities skewed. Also, almost all ancient cultures > had > > > some > > > > > > > > concept of Karma, and believed that they were given > what > > > > they > > > > > had > > > > > > > > for a reason (wether they were given poverty or > wealth), > > > And > > > > > > > > Maharishi has said that it is the 'deserving ability' > of > > > the > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > that allows them to gain the necessary means, which is > > > what > > > > > > almost > > > > > > > > all ancient cultures believed, including Guru Dev's > > > cultural > > > > > > > > worldview. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any record of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati > > > *charging* > > > > > for > > > > > > a > > > > > > > mantra? Or was it just on a donation basis? Or was it > free? > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > FREE !??? GET OVER IT ! > > > > > > Only Maharishi and a few others have given techniques for > > > > > > free....and that NEVER lasts. NEVER. It is a fact of life. > > > > > > If you wanted knoweldge from Guru Dev you had to DONATE > your > > > > time > > > > > as > > > > > > a worker, and a lot of it, OR, pay for it (yagyas etc.), > or > > > gain > > > > > > good karma by being a DONOR to the temple. By our > standards > > it > > > > > would > > > > > > not be much, but by Indian standards in those days it was > > not > > > > > > insignificant. > > > > > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > I have teached a lot of students for free. With good > following- > > > up, > > > > > most of them continue. > > > > > Ingegerd>>> > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > Can people take the TM-Sidhis if a teacher is not recertified? > > > > I must admit, when I took up TM I was doing it for the Sidhis, > > > > because I knew it would be powerful and I felt I wanted > > something > > > > more than a simple relaxation technique. It would be awful if > I > > > > could not have taken the Sidhis. > > > > (I for one, hate this whole recert thing) > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > If we suggest that TM is a very old technique coming from the > > Vedic > > > Culture, The Sidhis also comes from the same source. Why should > > the > > > TMO have a Mononpol to teach out the Sidhis? It does not make > > sense > > > to me. I would never teach out Maharishis Sidhi-techniques - > > because > > > they do not feel right to me. I have my own thoughts about the > > > Sidhis, and I think we all develop sidhi abilities during our > > daily > > > practise - regardless if it is TM or other practicies - if we > are > > > serious about what we are doing. > > > Ingegerd>>> > > > > 1.So do you tell them that they won't be able to take the TM- > Sidhis > > when they learn. > > 2.Do you tell them that the TM-Sidhis is the only advanced > technique > > which has research published and also the only one where people > have > > been seen to effortlessly hop in lotus and that even the US > > gymnastics team could not come close to what these pale-faced > > purusha were doing when thye tried to copy it (it was on a video - > US > > gymnastics team were completely flabbergasted). > > > > OffWorld > > No, I don't. It is the TMO that has to marketing those things. And > make their products so attractive that people would buy it whatever > it costs. I am not mentioning TM-Sidhis because I have seen none > effect of it among those who is still practising the techniques. > Many has stopped practising. Some I know who has been practising in > about 30 years, as developed High Bloodpressure, migraine, cancer > etc. > Ingegerd > >
Not me. Good luck. TM-sidhis are awesome, and those few anecdotes you quote don't count for much. Good luck though, I understand your perspective, even if in the great scheme of things, I think it will not be very effective. But your intentions are of the heart and hopefully that will carry through. OffWorld ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
