--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > That doesn't mean the person who is enlightened > > > > > > > can't speak about what the self is feeling, e.g., > insulted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not in this case. One could say "the body is cold". Because > > > there > > > > > > is a body, but one does not identify with it. But an insult > > > referes > > > > > > to the sense of diminishment of ego. if there is no > > > > > > ego, "ABSOLUTELY no ego", then how can the sense of ego be > > > > > > diminished? > > > > > > > > > > No ego in the Absolute; the ego is "in" the self. > > > > > > > > I am sure you get the point. If there IS absolutely, > emphatically NO > > > > EGO or individuality in Enlightenment, as Peter claims as the > > > > universal definitional of enlightenment -- valid and true for > ALL -- > > > > as well as this being his OWN 'experience', then how can such a > > > > NONEXISTING ego feel diminishment? > > > > > > Trying again: No ego in the Absolute--"absolutely" no ego; > > > the ego is "in" the self. > > > > I guess you are playing with my use of the word "absolutely" -- and > > making a joke, not a point clarification. > > Think about it a bit more.
And Peter is claiming that there is no self, no ego, no ego in the self, no self in the ego, no nothing there, zippo, game over, lights out. So I am suggesting that Peter is wrapped up in a fallacy -- a misView -- an incorrect interpretation of his experience, a cogitive error. This is because if an insult is a sense of diminishment of the ego, and Peter feels insulted, then ergo -- he has ego space. And thus by his own strict and sole-criteria definition of of enlightnement, he is not enlightened. Yet I am sure I am still missing your shining, but to me, obscure koan. :) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
