I tend to agree with you. Guru Dev was definitely up for a joke - 
listen to the satsangs, his audience are almost wetting themselves. I 
played the longer one to a Hindi-speaking Indian friend, she just 
kept guffawing and ho-ho-ing.


--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Comments interleaved below.
> 
> -- Premanand Paul Mason wrote:
> >
> > The Hindi word 'malamuutra' seems to mean mal+muutra 
i.e. 'excrement 
> > and urine'. That is to say, Guru Dev was saying that for nine 
months 
> > he was confined in his own filth. Neither translator thinks to 
> > include mention of this remark.
> 
> I believe the umbilical cord delivers nutrients and 
> carries away wastes, does it not? Fetuses surely do
> not void in utero.
> 
> > > "I lived in the company of you people for nine months. What was 
my
> > > condition at that time? It was reverse. I was tightly bounded 
from
> > > all sides and there were sufferings beyond limits. In this
> > > troublesome way I had passed nine months. Those days, I still
> > > remember. This is the reason why I do not have the least desire 
to 
> > be in the company of women folk." TSTaaGS
> 
> Sounds like a joke. Harsh humor, to be sure, but a joke nonetheless.
> Otherwise, I'm to believe that someone I'm told was very 
compassionate
> is holding a grudge against all womankind for having to be born
> of woman?
>






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