--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > The primary benefit of the flying sutra is intense, 
molecular 
> > > > level 
> > > > > > purification of the body and its resultant consciousness.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What were the stoichiometric equations for that molecular 
> > > process?
> > > > >
> > > > You tell me!!
> > > >
> > > Seriously, mystery guest, after looking up what stoichiometric 
> > > equations are and seeing that they primarily have to do with 
> > > conservation of mass, then I conclude that such a phenomenon 
as I 
> > > witnessed while doing the flying sutra could not be measured 
in this 
> > > way. 
> > > 
> > > As I said, my subjective experience was much more non-
localized than 
> > > my typical experience. Since my experience and therefore the 
> > > phenomenon was non-localized, there is no way to determine a 
closed 
> > > system to apply the stoichiometric equations to.
> > > 
> > > And, question for you: why the heck would you want to anyway? 
The 
> > > whole point of spiritual practice is to release us from our 
> > > suffering. How would the calculation of these equations 
achieve 
> > > that?
> > 
> > Well, you made a point to say the intense changes were at the
> > molecular level. Since most changes in the body are at the 
molecular
> > level of cellular processes, it would at first appear to be 
rendundant
> > and pseudo-science speak. But I assume that you had a specific 
reason,
> > specific insight at the molecular level. Thus mapping out the 
basic
> > molecular change that was "revealed" to you is an appropriate
> > follow-up question.
> > 
> > If your subjective experience was much more non-localized than 
> > your typical experience, why did you highlight it as intense 
molecular
> > change? If it was metaphysical, why try to cloak it in scientific
> terms. 
> > 
> > If it was molecular, and you know that for a fact, then you must 
have
> > some insight into the molecular process involved. If you were 
simply
> > using "molecular" as a crude analogy for "powerful and 
fundamental"
> > well, then ok, I guess. Just seems to be sloppy writing.
> 
> And given that the intense change at the molecular level was
> "pufification", it implies large scale toxin removal or
> transformation. What toxins were these? What molecular or processes
> were these toxins blocking  or destroying? 
> 
> Given that the molecular purification was "intense" it must be
> quantitively significant -- the change in toxin levels must be 
clearly
> measurable. Have you surveyed any of the literature to see what 
toxins
> dramatically decrease with siddhis practice? Do such findings
> correlate with your post siddhis experience (that is, if the 
research
> indicated removal of toxins related to a specific cellular
> /physiologic process, did you notice higher level purification in 
that
> area?
> 
> Perhaps the intense molecular changes and removal of toxins are not
> universal from siddhis practice, per Meridith post. Have you
> volunteered for exploratory studies physiological studies to 
pinpoint
> the intense molecular changes and toxin removal in your 
physiology? If
> you are experience intese molecular change and toxin removal from a
> mental practice, it would be a milestone in medicine and biology to
> pinpoint these changes in your body chemistry. This would be
> increadibly important to the advancement of science. If you have 
not
> beat down the doors of Stanford of UC Berkeley to be tested, it 
seems
> selfish given the contribution to the world such findings would 
bring.
>
You are on a rant. decaf please






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