--- In [email protected], anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > The interesting thing about this discussion is that
> > > according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru
> > > Dev of "attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher."
> > > 
> > > If it's true that when you do this, you take on all
> > > the qualities of mind of the teacher, what does that
> > > say about the qualities of MMY's mind that are so
> > > often criticized here?
> > 
> > Go back and read the discussion. No one ever 
> > suggested that it was an all-or-nothing process,
> > or that everyone is successful at modeling the
> > mind of their teacher. I know that all I meant
> > to suggest is that it's something that one works
> > at over a long period of time -- years, or decades.
> > And not everyone is successful at doing it.
> > 
> > I would suggest that Maharishi wasn't particularly
> > successful at doing it, since one of his first 
> > actions after Guru Dev's death was to not obey
> > what he'd told him to do (that is, go into seclusion,
> > and not teach). 
> > 
> > In addition, the effects of mind-modeling only "last" 
> > so long. After almost fifty years, I suspect that
> > Maharishi has had an opportunity to pick up a few
> > kinks of his own.  :-)
> 
> I take a different slant on "mind modelling". It has little if
> anyting to do with "content". Its a process of structuring freedom, 
> of dissolving all inner boundaries, attachments and "sanskaras". 
> When that  is done, content "happens". It may be like the 
> teachers', it may be a quite new angle.

That's my impression too.  The point isn't to absorb
the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities
of *consciousness*.  Moreover, it's the process of
surrender itself, I should think, that does most of the
"work" of structuring freedom.

 
> 
> Ricks example of those around him now I think is false. They are
> "works in progress". Better examples are SSRS. Perhaps Chopra. For
> more finsihed works.
> 
> Look at the holy tradition. Was each master a clone of his master?
> Hardly, it seems. What is passed down is consciousness awakened to
> itself. Content is not "the thing".






------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> 
Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing
http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> 

To subscribe, send a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or go to: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
and click 'Join This Group!' 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 


Reply via email to