--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > In a message dated 2/25/06 12:35:05 A.M. Central Standard 
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > 
> > > > The  Bible says it is an abomination for a man to *lay* with
> > > > another man  they 
> > > > way he would with a woman. (paraphrased). I think that gets 
> > > > the point across without being too graphic.
> > > 
> > > I am not a  biblical scholar, but apparently, the bible adds 
> > > that it is within gods  grace for a man to *lay* with  a 
> > > woman in the ways a man lays  with another man. 
> > > 
> > > There is no sin that can not be  forgiven.
> > 
> > There is no sin, period. It's an invention of those
> > who cannot accept themselves and others.
> 
> Until I see some holy book that explicitly and clearly 
> says that doing this or that particular homosexual act 
> is a sin, I would have to agree with Barry.

I know I'm in effect agreeing with myself to agree
with Shemp here :-), but I'll not only agree, I'll 
see his agreement and raise him one heresy. 

I personally have never met a book I would consider 
"holy," so it really doesn't matter to me what *any* 
of them has to say on this subject.

I know that might sound harsh, so I'll explain. In
my opinion, EVERY SINGLE "HOLY" BOOK IN THE HISTORY
OF THIS PLANET WAS WRITTEN BY MEN, FOR MEN. A few of
them IMO may have been "inspired," in the sense that
they were written by or dictated by human beings in
higher states of consciousness, but to be honest not
very many of them even achieved that. The norm in the
realm of "holy books" is that most of the books that 
humans consider "holy" were written by NON-enlightened 
humans describing the actions of enlightened (or at 
least more enlightened) fellow humans as best they 
could (such as the Gospels).

IMO *none* of them was either written by God or 
inspired by God. They were all written by men, doing
their best to interpret their own experiences and
hoping to inspire others to have experiences of their
own. 

So it really doesn't matter to me what ANY of them
says on the subject of sex and sexuality, be it 
between men and women, men and men, women and women,
men and toasters, women and battery-powered objects,
whatever. Whatever the "scriptures" say, to me they
are merely words, and merely the words of other 
people just like myself. They are not necessarily
any closer to "truth" than grafiti written on a 
subway wall.

Others are free to believe what they want about the
books they revere. But I'll believe that any of them
are actual "scriptures" the day someone can show me
a copy of one that was actually autographed by the
supposed author.  :-)







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