--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/1/06 9:06 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the
> > contrary.  What I've observed has been a
> > tendency to be deferential to those who
> > claimed or were rumored to be enlightened.
> 
> In certain quarters of Fairfield, especially MUM, people don't dare
claim
> enlightenment publicly. Probably due to fears created by the Robin
Carlson
> legacy. However, Fred Travis has been quietly studying people, but those
> people wouldn't dare go public.

I remember in the 70s there was some tendency to look up to certain
people who were rumored to have "good experiences" on courses, but
it's been just the opposite for some time now.  Saying anything public
about being enlightened is cause for blacklisting at MUM - now tmers
are deferential to people who have been given titles by MMY.  

I don't know if this is true about the Travis studies, but it used to
be policy at MUM that any study reg. higher states could only be done
using subjects with valid dome badges -- the idea of someone without a
valid badge having enlightened experiences was not acceptable.

Personally I'm wary of anyone making E claims and prefer orgs that
don't even use the word.  IMO, energywise, "being enlightened" is just
the new age-eastern version of "being saved by Jesus".









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