--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > <snip> perhaps I felt it in bad > >> form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about it > > in > >> public or discuss the details of how the View was tested and > >> verified? I know it's all the rage, discussing of "experiences" and > >> so on--but didn't you ever wonder about those who knew the point of > >> non-discussion of experience? > >> > > Just want to add that in my case I am not bragging. What is there to > > brag about? > > > > The reasons I discuss my experience of awakening openly is, one, > > because there is an opportunity to do so, where at least some of the > > folks reading understand what is being discussed, and two, I > > personally feel that it is important to let people know that ordinary > > chumps, like me, can achieve such a state. > > Good point. I respect Vaj's knowledge and experience, but I have a hard time > believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts are not > enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a nail > driven through their foot or that they cast a shadow. I think he's raising > the bar too high. Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing > things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman. >
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