--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:22 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are 
effortless
> >>> and do not require concentration.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here 
sometime
> >> ago. TM is *easy* but not truly effortless.
> >>
> >
> > BS. No effort is required to do TM. Some effort mayhappen on
> > occasssion, and obsessing about how much or how little, if any, is
> > detrimental, but no effort is required.
> >
> > And there are many *easy*
> >
> >> meditation methods out there and there are *effortless* forms of
> >> meditation but they are not necessarily *easy* to do correctly.
> >>
> >> It seems like we're mincing words when we talk about this, but
> >>
> > styles
> >
> >> of meditation which are truly effortless are typically forms of 
non-
> >>
> >
> >
> >> meditation. And there is a big difference.
> >>
> >> Even M. admitted this at Estes Park--that TM required some 
effort.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > So what did he say exactly?
> 
> It wasn't me who responded. Is this yet another example of Judy 
and  
> Lawson's selective memory? You were here too--this conversation  
> occurred after the alt.med.tm diaspora. :-)
>

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