--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: <snip> > > I did say in that in the early stages there may be > > some very slight effort until the automatic cycle > > is established. > > What if that "automatic cycle" is NEVER established? Does this mean > that someone is doing it "incorrectly?"
I think so, yes. Although I suspect that most people who continue to experience effort eventually quit. <snip> > > > But you are the one who said that people who don't have YOUR > > > experience haven't "gotten" TM. That's an expectation, by > > > definition. > > > > An expectation of what? And how would it affect one's > > practice? > > Expectations effect everything we do. If you expect TM to include > a certain kind of experience than you're practicing that experience. Again, in this case, an expectation of *what*? And how would it affect one's meditation? In any case, we don't "do" TM--we not-do it. And you can't "practice effortlessness" in the TM sense of "effortless," as I keep pointing out. You *can* practice effort if you believe effort is involved, though. But then you aren't practicing TM. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
