--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
[...]
> > People start jumping all over each other, normally-
> > mutually-supportive TBs start arguing with each other
> > over whose meditation is more effortless and thus more
> > superior,
>
> This is apparently Barry's take on my discussion with
> Lawson. Does anybody else think this is an accurate
> characterization?
I missed that. That IS bizarre.
>
> a normally non-TB poster becomes a private
> > dick with a mission from God to "prove" TM the only
> > effortless technique available, and it goes on and
> > on and on for hundreds if not thousands of lines.
> >
> > And all because two simplistic pieces of dogma ("TM is
> > effortless" and "TM is unique") have been repeated so
> > often that some people have come to believe that they're
> > up there with the Word Of God, sacrosanct, never to be
> > questioned or challenged.
>
> Or, they're describing their personal experience with TM,
> which happens to confirm that TM is effortless. (In my
> case, I hadn't the foggiest idea what the referent of
> the term "effortless" was until I'd had the experience.)
Of course, as a friend pointed out to me once, its entirely plausible
that you're going to open your eyes after your next TM session and
go "OMG" I had it wrong all these years and that you will continue to
have such "OMG" episodes for the rest of your life.
>
> Moreover, far from believing that I'm never to be
> questioned or challenged, I *invite* questioning and
> challenge (just as Shemp has invited challenge to the
> "TM is unique" assertion).
>
> It's all pretty funny, actually.
> > Unless, of course, you happen to be one of the ones for
> > whom the Word Of God has been questioned...then it's
> > obviously deadly serious.
> >
> > WHAT DOES IT MATTER whose technique is more effortless,
> > or whether the TM technique is "unique" or not?
>
> Different issue entirely. Maybe it matters that TM
> is effortless and unique, maybe it doesn't. But that
> isn't what we've been discussing.
>
> In this
> > whole brouhaha, it seems to me that sparaig and hyperbolic
> > have the right idea -- if the technique works for them,
> > WHERE'S THE PROBLEM? But others seem to be acting like
> > if they allow even one insignificant point of the TM
> > dogma to be challenged, then the whole teaching and
> > belief system is going to fall apart for them like
> > a house of cards.
>
> Speaking of "hyperbolic"... In fact, *nobody* is
> acting like that in this discussion.
>
> I personally feel this *particular* point is the
> bottom line with regard to TM, and it's just about
> the only one I absolutely insist on. And since it
> isn't a belief but a direct personal experience, it's
> hard to imagine how challenges to it could cause any
> of my belief system to fall apart.
>
> > Weird, if you ask me...
>
> Barry, it's your fantasies that are weird, not the
> reality.
>
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