--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:59 AM, t3rinity wrote:
> > 
> > > From what I know, and what I have seen
> > > in the Satsang movement, this is exactly what is being done 
> there: The
> > > truth of non-duality is being pointed out and explained in 
terms 
> of
> > > his own everyday experience, it is being discussed, and quite 
> often
> > > people are guided towards self-inquiry ('who am I'.)
> > 
> > 
> > Yes this is what is happening in some cases IMO. Pointing out.  
> > However at the same time after some are "introduced" they go on  
> > rather quickly to claim Buddhahood, Unity Consciousness (brahma- 
> > chetana), Cosmic Consciousness (turiyatita) or in the case of 
TMO  
> > people, they go on to claim what "Maharishi said". In every case 
I 
> am  
> > aware of, none of these people would fit the definition of those  
> > states or the experience. There's a strong element of grandiosity 
> in  
> > it all.
> > 
> > It's interesting, I was reading some prophecies from the 8th 
> century  
> > regarding when non-dual teaching would start coming to the cities 
> of  
> > the west and they describe this very phenomenon and what will 
> happen  
> > very precisely. One of the comments is 'if it were so easy to 
> reach  
> > perfect Buddhahood, the ocean of samsara would already have been  
> > drained long ago.'
> > 
> > "Masters of old lashed out at those who claimed to be
> > enlightened yet refused to be tested, calling them
> > "earthworms living in the slime of self-validated
> > satori"."
> > -Philip Kapleau Roshi
> > 
> > How many were tested by their teachers? would be my
> > question--but I already know the answer.
> >
> No one ever said it was easy, but it is achievable. It is a mistake 
> to assume it is easy. It is also a mistake to assume it is not 
> achievable.
>

CC is quite easy, though not always fun during  the transition period.







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