One lurker's view of "the feud": It takes two to tango.
I suspect people are trying to persuade Judy to change because she is more rational and seems more persuadable by logical argumentthe logic being that her strategy to get Barry to change obviously hasn't worked and alienates others. I don't know how much of "the feud" is personal between the two, or how much Barry's behaviour could change if Judy changed first. I admit to being amazed by the level of vitriol, venom, contempt and bile that Barry carries and expresses towards Maharishi, TM, the TMO, and those he identifies as being sympathetic to any aspect of those. His expressions are often forceful, searing, and yes, as Judy says, lies, although I see them more as simply delusional fantasies and wishful thinking, albeit extremely negative. I don't understand how Barry lives with that black seething morass of hatred and venom inside that has him using so much time and energy posting in discussion groups and fighting with Judy for as long as people say this has been going on. A few posts back Rick made a point about living in the now: Imagine not even being able to go to a concert in a church in France and just enjoy it without spending your concert time making up a dark fantasy about how the history of that church is just like Maharishi oppressing people and forcing TM down their throats and then coming on here and writing about it. Talk about not living in the nowJust shuddup and enjoy the music already! Barry is big on claiming personal doership and responsibility but blames Maharishi, TM and the TMO for his own shitty behaviour, while claiming great enlightenment and spiritual superiority from all the techniques he's received and the great teachers he's studied with. I'd like to know what spiritual teaching and tradition condones and has as its result the harboring and expression of sheer negativity towards all things MMY that Barry indulges inso I can avoid those teachers and paths, god willing and weather permitting. Wisdom from an old western"Think what you like, you have to live with your thoughts." An addendum would be, "And spare the rest of us by keeping it to your self, too." Yeah, Judy is obsessive about this. So is Barry. Judy, you could just let him stew in his own juices. You don't have to take it on. It must feel awful enough already to feel like he does. By continuing to engage him you just absorb his stuff and it gives him an out from having to take responsibility for himself, the opposite of what you say you want to achieve. IMO, better to just be a (ok, relatively) silent mirror, then all it can do is reflect back at himhis mind, his thoughts, his feelings, his creation and he can take responsibility for it. Just one (ok temporarily former) lurker's 2 cents worth. --- In [email protected], "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > So why am I getting all the flak? > > It's not fair, it's a good question, and I don't know. You may be > righter and more honest than Barry, but more than enough has been > said by me. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
