--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > Has my experience deepened over time? Yes. Has silence infused my > daily activity? Yes. Have I gained the ability to sit without > thoughts for as long as I choose to? Yes. Do I experience lucid > dreaming? Yes. Do I have good posture? Yes. > > So it appears that you are regularly propounding a set of techniques > that when practiced, achieve the same results as regular practice of > TM, and TM Sidhis. > > The conclusion I reach is that whether we take a bus, or a scooter > or an ox cart, Buddhist meditation techniques, TM, the destination > with all of its associated results, remains the same. >
But IS it the same state? The brainwave coherence study that Vaj likes to tout is only concerning the very high (for EEG) frequency gamma band, whereas TM- induced coherence is over all frequencies save, perhaps, the gamma band. The state induced by TM practice apparently gets more pronounced during meditation for about 4 months and then stabilizes. However, the state outside meditation continues to become more pronounced over decades of practice. The Buddhist meditation EEG coherence appears to continue to get more and more pronounced during meditation as time goes on. The gamma band EEG of the Buddhist meditation is associated with paying attention to specific objects. The alpha band EEG is associated with being alert, period. There's no research that I can find (nor can the Esalen Institute) that document breath suspension during Buddhist meditation, whereas there are several studies on hundreds of individuals who show this during TM practice. There's no mention of correlation between EEG changes and enlightenment in any of the research that Vaj mentions, whereas that's one of the big areas of study for EEG and brain imaging at MUM currently. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
