On Apr 18, 2006, at 8:13 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the
> > > > > same as what TMers call transcending. Given that TMers
> > > > > don't report transcending
> > > > > during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly surprising...
> > > >
> > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you
> > > > were doing. For ex. there is a form of shamatha that
> > > > traces the seed syllable back to
> > > > it's source--silence--much like TM.
> > >
> > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of
> > > meditation, or is it merely a description of an
> > > idealized outcome?
> >
> > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the
> > beginning part.
> >
> > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
>
> Good advice, but do you honestly think it's possible?
>
> From my point of view, Lawson represents an almost-
> perfect example of the "TM paradigm," which is based on
> the assumption that the TM view of things and descrip-
> tion of things is correct, and that any view or description
> that differs from that is by definition incorrect.
>
> In my opinion that's really how TMers are taught to
> think, both about the mechanics of meditation and about
> the scientific measurements thereof. Being "stuck in their
> paradigm" is perceived as a *good* thing and is rewarded
> in the TMO by "strokes."
>
> How likely is it that, after decades of this kind of
> reinforcement, someone is open to the possibility of
> other paradigms being valid?

Oh well....anything's possible...although some things are less probable!



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