--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And that's the way many advaitins (like the ones who run that list) 
> are reacting to the piece--it's very positive:
>
> "This is just the mature, sobering kind of analysis that more seekers
> need to be exposed to.  The intersubjective and implicit contractual
> agreements keep the whole thing going."

I know, Vaj, and I gave, unlike you urls, so that everyone can look it
up himself.

> Is a typical comment--most from hardcore advaitins.

Who is a 'hard-core' Advaitin there, and who is not, is a different
topic.

>   And that's the idea: what was lost in the translation of east to 
> west? It'll be a long time till the west figures it all out, we're a 
> different culture. But it's helpful to find patterns of suffering, 
> acknowledge them and evolve. Avoid the shadow, it will just overcome 
> you in some way.
>
> >
> >
> > > but also seeks recognition, for what he doesn't seem to get here, 
> > and
> > > obviously with success
> > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2006/04/enlightenment-anonymous.html
> >
> > That appears to be an odd form for you (usually clear, fair and
> > informative -- and not prone to comments on persons rather than ideas)
> > -- imputing motives to someone else -- particularly a "stranger".
>
> Actually this is a common thing and has a long history with this poster.
>
> Apparently he didn't realize it had already been posted here over a 
> month ago...or that it was not about FFL.

Sorry Vaj you just got hung up on my first link which was just meant
to be the introduction, your introduction as well. My real point was
how you characterized the scene and people here, obviously without
making any direct reference, onesided as it is. I wanted to give
people here a chance to see how they or their views are characterized
elsewhere, and so also have a chance of responding. (I think
Guruphiliac group isn't as free as here, you have to be sort of
invited or be a little bit anti Guru, that is they are selective about
whom they take. Anybody though can respond on their blog.) I find it
very peculiar especially as you once tried to turn people at AMT on to
come here, with the argument, that this is the place where evolution
is going on, because of so many highly evolved and enlightened
posters. Of course you could have changed your mind





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