>
> --- In [email protected], anon_astute_ff <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Please note that my post was
> > > more about the two followup posts of Vaj about the peculiar FFL
> > > scene which he doesn't have the guts to call by name.
> >
> > Again, you are on the slippery slope of imputing motives. As Dr.
> > Pete has said (though not always practiced), no one can tell what
> > the inner state or motives of another are.
>
> Nobody can know, obviously, *for sure*. But one can
> often make a damn good guess based on observation of
> past behavior and knowledge of a person's perspective.
>
> To suggest we should never impute motives because we
> can't know for sure is kind of absurd.
I am suggesting that imputing motives not very interesting or
productive -- in terms of advancing ideas and the discussion. That its
also is pretty iffy -- and often tells us more about the
"motives-outer" than the original "motivee". When motives are imputed,
many get diverted off the ideas of the discussion and start explaining
why the stated motives are not their motives and -- btw -- why the
"motives-outer" is such a dumb-ass for saying so. Whoa boy, then we
really have a GREAT dynamic set up for discussing ideas.
> Some feel that those who
> > impute motives often are telling us what they would do in such a
> > situation, and chastizing poster for the imputed motivations they
> > fear in themselves.
>
> This is one of those facile generalizations that
> folks tend to take as a given because it sounds so
> learned.
I am not trying to sound learned. Its my speculation based on
observations of many posts. I am sorry that you personally feel my
observations are facile. On this, I guess we will disagree.
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