>--- In [email protected], new_morning_blank_slate
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Every Memorial Day we hear that myth about those who have fallen
> > > fighting for "our freedom." Believe me nobody ever died fighting for
> > > "our freedom."
> >
> > Horse shit. You poor dryless cynic.
>
>To hold that many of those sent to fight did not believe and dedicate
>their lives to noble ideals is horseshit, and personifies a soul never
>engaged in the front lines and the horror and sacrafices made.
>
>That many leaders on many sides through history have let down the
>troops they led into battle with national chauvinism and jingoistic
>bravado is indisputable.
>
>But to demean those sent to die, often with no choice, often fought
>with noble and sincere ideals, is quite putridly sick. Don't demean
>common soldiers' courage and sacrafices with your armchair horseshit
>meanderings of a dry soul, devoid of compassion, shakti, or any
>positive tantric virtue.
>
> > > Instead they fought to keep the rich rich and the poor
> > > poor.
>
>The fallen soldiers, on both sides, deserve honor and respect. Their
>leaders may not, and may deserve damnation. Revolutionary War (seems
>noble with exceptions), Civil war (seems a waste, let states determine
>their own destinies as free people), Indian wars (genocidic,
>excessive, which we bear great shame, and bear the price of still
>today), WWI (a waste of US effort -- a power struggle of tired and
>decayed imperialist powers, which the US should have left to wear down
>their depraved imperialistic and militeristic ways), WWII (a result of
>"Allied" harshness of the Treaty of Versaille, but noble in a limited
>view, the need to contain facism and neo-imperialism), Viet-Nam (a sad
>waste).
>
>But any soldier who was called and fought have my respect. Any soldier
>maimed, has much respect. Any soldier who died in such, has much much
>honor and respect. On both sides. And those that resisted. Went to
>jail. COs.
>
>To demean the sincerity of the majority of common soldiers is sad, if
>not horrific, on Memorial Day.
>
>Caste your spite, if you must, on stupid and manipulative leaders. But
>casting love, foregiveness, and acceptance is the path to peace. Not
>empty disrespectful rhetoric.
>
>I have spent the day honoring the 57,000+ american dead from Vietnam.
>Its such a huge number of souls. I wish I could light a candle for
>each. Next year! May we all give them deserved compassion. As well as
>the several million (by some accounts) of perished vietnamese.
>
>And WWII. The tragedy boggles the mind and heart. From blitzkrieg, to
>death camps, to the fierceness of Okinowa and pending Kyusua, to the
>horror of the Atomic bombs. How dare you defile the sacrafice of
>millions with platitudes!
>
>All honor and love to all deseased and maimed. On all sides. And
>hoping all can finally appreciate the pure and deep humanity in all.
>And war will become a relic.
>
>
>
That's all maya my friend. Wake up.
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