>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 5/31/06 8:19:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > > babajii_99@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > Enlightened leadership is the only way out.
> > > >
> > > > But if the leadership is only a reflection of the collective
> > > > consciousness, then you've got a real problem. In order to have
> > > > enlightened leadership, you're going to have to have an
> > > > enlightened society first.
> > >
> > > Huh, that's a good point! I've never heard that raised
> > > before. It seems so obvious now that you mention it.
> >
> > Self-evident? haha
I was making a joke -- referencing past discussion about things
self-evident. A joke not directed to you, but all of us. We all take
things as self-evident when upon reflection, we realize they may or
may not be true.
> I don't think I said self-evident. I think I said
> "obvious."
I never said, or meant to imply that you did. Sorry if you inferred
it. I may add layers of explanatory text next time to make it clearer.
> > While I like the notion of "leadership is only a reflection of the
> > collective consciousness", in newly energized Kurtzian
> > sensibilities, thats an idea, perhaps someday testable -- though
> > that would be a challenge -- but it is neither fact nor a good
> > theory that can make valid predictions. Is it true? How do you know
> > it would be true?
>
> Er, did you read what I was commenting on? Did you
> actually read my comment?
The above has nothing to do with your comment. It has to do with
Dixons. And my comment is just an _expression_ of my take on a premise
often stated here about leadership and collective C.
While I did read your comment, I was not commenting on it. I was not
aggreeing or disagreeing with you. I was expressing an independent
thought I had.
Not all posts are about you. Though we all make that mistaken
inference sometimes -- all comments refers to our posts. I could post
the disclaimer "this is a geneal comment not directed at anyone or
their posts..." but that would get tedious.
>
> I was referring to what MDixon pointed out, that
> the TMO concepts of enlightened leadership, on the
> one hand, and leadership that reflects the
> consciousness of the people, on the other hand,
> don't seem to mesh very well. In other words,
> they can't both be true.
Fine. And I was expressing another thought, totally independent of yours.
> >
> > What would the kids be like if Paul Kurtz married Byron Katie?
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