--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 13, 2006, at 6:25 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > >> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I would like my comment to be separated from any connection with > >>> evaluating Jim personally. In my communications he has passed the > >>> much more important test in my world of being a nice, sincere guy. > >>> > >>> I thought the Vedic System of MMY included the Yoga Sutras as the > >>> tests for consciousness. At least that is how he presented it to us. > >>> They were markers on the path, like belts in martial arts. It seems > >>> reasonable that the criteria included in the system should be met. > >>> > >> > >> Well, duh...he was *selling* them for thousands of dollars. :-) > >> > >> More seriously, yes I think you're correct that he seems > >> to hold the siddhis up as some kind of 'standard' for > >> enlightenment, but he is one of the only spiritual > >> teachers I've encountered who does. Without exception, > >> all of the others I've seen personally have said just > >> the opposite, that there is no connection whatsoever > >> between the ability to manifest siddhis and enlightenment. > >> Just FYI. > >> > >> > > > > Of course, that's not what he says. > > > > What he (MMY) says is that UNLESS you are able to do the siddhis, > > you can't claim Unity, > > not that the ability to [at least occassionally] do a siddhi means > > that you are in Unity. > > > > He also says that perfection of any of the sidhis means that all > > are perfected, but aside > > from a few famous avatars, how many people have ever been said to > > be perfect in any > > way? > > > Siddhis belong to yoga-darshana and therefore CC (as you've been told > here numerous times before). The darshana for UC is the Badarayana > sutras, which to my recollection makes no mention of siddhis whatsoever. >
So you're saying that someone in Unity may have not ability to perform the Sidhis and still be in Unity? Are you saying that Patanjali didn't have any concept of Unity Consciousness, or that the Yoga Sutras techniques CANNOT lead one to Unity even if there are other things that can lead to the state faster? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
