--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > " Just because he said he was enlightened, why did
> > > they believe it?"
> > 
> > This is a deep point.  I'm sure you know all about Lifton's
> > perspective.  That is my guess.  My conscious rational mind 
> > was not functioning properly.  Plus I believe the darshon 
> > experience is real and powerful.  I just do not believe the 
> > traditional interpretation of what it means.  People who saw 
> > Mao described the experience in similar terms of people's 
> > description of personal contact with a master.  I don't 
> > believe it was because he was a radiator of pure being.  It 
> > may just be one of those mental experiences that had an 
> > evolutionary value when not deferring to the alpha chimp 
> > could mean death.  Just a guess.
> I don't know 'Lifton' or what that refers to. My take on why 
> people ascribe stuff to their teachers is they want to 
> personalize their own inner transformation, and the teacher 
> is a convenient...target?  lol.

I think you're making a simple thing complicated. In 
many if not most cases the 'darshan' thang is not a 
factor because many TM teachers have never met 
Maharishi or been in the same room with them, much
less rank-and-file meditators. I think it's as simple
as the fact that they just paid a lot of money for a
technique that promises enlightenment, and they 
hopefully assume that the seller is enlightened and
that their money was not wasted.

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