--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "Well, you also made it sound as though anyone and everyone in the TMO
> was a liar as Andrew Skolnick quoted you in his JAMA article:"
> 
> Are you a teacher?  Is it news for you that people in the movement
> lie, especially to reporters?  I was speaking about my experience.  Is
> it different for you?

So, you say that you were taught to lie and yet you also say:

"> > My reasons for leaving TM were different from many others who left
> TM
> > and spoke about it. I was not a disgruntled member. I had
> wonderful
> > experiences and insights and had balanced my personal and
> professional
> > life when I decided to leave. I was teaching part-time and
> enjoying a
> > great real estate market, so I thought I had it all. I had the
> bucks
> > to enjoy the privileged side of TMO with its better access to MMY
> than
> > I had as a full-time member."

> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > [...]
> > > So much of what you said seems to be a natural pattern of growing up
> > > with our ideas whatever they are.  I suspect that I am neither
> > > uniquely flawed nor gifted in intellectual awareness,  in or out of 
> > > TMO.  I also recognize that this group is far from TMO is so many
> > > important ways.  Ways that make this group a much nicer and more
> > > interesting group to interact with.  I have not been able to have a
> > > mutually respectful conversation with anyone still in the group
> > > mindset.  I suspect some of the people here have similar experiences
> > > although mine may be a little more intense because I publicly spoke
> > > out against the TMO, breaking the most important "no talk" rule of any
> > > dysfunctional family!
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, you also made it sound as though anyone and everyone in the
> TMO was a liar as 
> > Andrew Skolnick quoted you in his JAMA article:
> > 
> > http://www.skeptictank.org/gs/sci603.htm
> > [...]
> > 'Ex-members say that the movement widely practices a style of
> > deception some call the "SIMS shuffle." Curtis Mailloux, a former
> > member who lives in Fairfax, Va, says the name is derived from the
> > Student International Meditation Society, one of the Maharishi's
> > front groups, where many members develop this skill. Mailloux says
> > he "left the cult" in 1989 after 15 years. As a former TM teacher
> > and chair of the TM center in Washington, DC, the largest in the
> > United States, he is one of the highest ranking members to defect.
> > 
> > "I was taught to lie and to get around the pretty rules of the
> > 'unenlightened' in order to get favorable reports into the media,"
> > says Maillous. "We were taught how to exploit the reporters'
> > gullibility and fascination with the exotic, especially what comes
> > from the East. We thought we weren't doing anything wrong, because
> > we were told it was often necessary to deceive the unenlightened to
> > advance our guru's plan to save the world."'
> >
>







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