--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Because we should realize and make the connection that 
> > *dualistic
> > > >> methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the
> > > >> witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic
> > > >> meditation method).
> > > >
> > 
> > You are absolutely right. However both the dualistic nature of 
> this  
> > meditation [TM] and the witnessing artifact are indicators of the 
> > state of consciousness of the practitioner at an intermediate 
> stage 
> > of the practice, vs. the solely dualistic nature of TM. 
> > 
> > TM is initially and necessarily experienced as meditation of a 
> > dualistic nature because its practice subjects the active mind to 
> > its silent source. As the practice matures, the active mind and 
> > silent source exist simultaneously, dissolving the dualistic 
> nature 
> > of both the experience and the meditation.
> > 
> > Did you hear that TM is a dualistic meditation from someone? If 
> so, 
> > I'd be curious to know who.
> >
> 
> Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my understanding 
> of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not forget that Vaj
> has hands on and knowledge on both (or more) ways , and other 
> meditation methods (including TM), while most of the people here are 
> more TM oriented. So objectively he has more means of making correct 
> observations.
>

Assuming that his "ways" are valid in the first place...





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