--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "kabbalist1" <kabbalist1@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Because we should realize and make the connection that > > > *dualistic > > > > >> methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the > > > > >> witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic > > > > >> meditation method). > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right. However both the dualistic nature of > > this > > > meditation [TM] and the witnessing artifact are indicators of the > > > state of consciousness of the practitioner at an intermediate > > stage > > > of the practice, vs. the solely dualistic nature of TM. > > > > > > TM is initially and necessarily experienced as meditation of a > > > dualistic nature because its practice subjects the active mind to > > > its silent source. As the practice matures, the active mind and > > > silent source exist simultaneously, dissolving the dualistic > > nature > > > of both the experience and the meditation. > > > > > > Did you hear that TM is a dualistic meditation from someone? If > > so, > > > I'd be curious to know who. > > > > Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my > > understanding of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not > > forget that Vaj has hands on and knowledge on both (or more) > > ways , and other meditation methods (including TM), while most of > > the people here are more TM oriented. So objectively he has more > > means of making correct observations. > > Assuming that his "ways" are valid in the first place...
And I'd question just how firmly he has "hands on and knowledge" of TM, at the very least. Not to mention the absurdity of suggesting he's "objective" about TM. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
