Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. Hopping

[Vaj]

On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>   wrote: It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra. Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's the case, Dave should complain about Patanjali, not the TMO. Well that's only partly the case. The fact is, in the Patanjali oral   and written tradition, which does still exist, it's stated that there   are actually *two* sutras for true "flying"/hovering--and in the TM-  Sidhi formulae you are only given *one*. In addition, there are other   practices and techniques that must be mastered. One is bringing a   certain form of prana into the head/skull. Unfortunately this is the   same prana that underlies thought processes. Screw this technique up   and you go, well, insane. This has all been verified by other TM-Sidhi practitioners from the   successor of Tat Whale Baba, who also indicated the other missing   elements in the TM-Sidhi program. They are very significant IMO. The hopping artifact is well known in yogic literature as the   bhuchari siddhi--the siddhi of hopping like a frog. It happens when   prana kundalini is stimulated at the level of the root (muladhara)   chakra....It can be achieved by mere pranayama. It's no big deal. But it *is* a big sell, or used to be. Heh. Yogananda claims that levitation itself can be obtained by "mere pranayama." MMY  claims that "mere pranayama" can bring one to enlightenment. What's so mere about it? Can you provide quotes for both? The yogic tradition is pretty clear on what pranayama should do for us: it clears out the nadis. The fourth pranayama--which may be what you're referring to is essential for both the development of siddhis and samadhi a la Patanjali--but this is not generally what people mean when they use the word "pranayama".  You sure yogananda wasn't referring to kriya-yoga rather than just pranayama? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___