--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> > <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
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> > > Plus, I think that everyone senses that this
> > > may be the last of them. Maharishi isn't going
> > > to live forever, and when he goes, I have not
> > > seen any indication that *anyone* else within the 
> > > TM movement could inspire more than a handful
> > > of people to come to a course. They could plead
> > > and cry and beg and claim that the world is going
> > > to end if people don't come, and everyone would
> > > ignore them, because they just don't have the
> > > chops to pull that sort of thing off. Not one
> > > of them. As I've said in another context recently,
> > > not one of them has done anything to *deserve* 
> > > such faith or to inspire the necessary suspension 
> > > of disbelief. And not one of them is likely to
> > > in any of our lifetimes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As I read your post, two personalities came to mind:
> > 
> > 1) Muktananda.  Replaced by his "dual" chosen
> > successors -- a 
> > brother and sister -- there was almost immediately a
> > huge fight 
> > between the two of them, with the sister winning
> > out.  That, along 
> > with the fact that neither of them possessed the
> > charisma of 
> > Muktananda, meant that their organisation is today
> > but a glimmer of 
> > what it was during Muktananda's hayday.  Of course
> > there's also 
> > the "sexual revelation" factor as well: that is, the
> > revelations 
> > about sex that came up in a big way after his death
> > also contributed 
> > to the loss of popularity of their movement.
> > 
> > So this is an interesting model for what may befall
> > the TMO after 
> > MMY dies: we on this forum know that sexual
> > revelations will be 
> > coming out,just as they did with Muktananda.  The
> > difference is that 
> > Muktananda allegedly had relations with young girls
> > and MMY's 
> > alleged dalliances were with fully formed females
> > (i.e. 18 years 
> > plus).  
> > 
> > But the other similar factor is the "charisma
> > factor".  As you point 
> > out, who on the horizon has the same degree of
> > charisma?
> 
> As I've mentioned before, I think TM people will
> "join" SSRS in droves after MMY drops the body. 



I think you've got something there.

Sadly, the current TMO and the people involved in it are, by 
necessity, guru-followers (if they weren't they would have, by 
necessity of logic and rationality, left long ago).  Without the 
guru figure in MMY, they will seek another out and I don't think a 
Nader Raam with a crown on his head and his weight in gold or a 
Bevan or a John makes it in that category for thoe type of folks.

Throw in MMY's "we are satisfied" declaration and you've got, after 
his death, the making of a Route 66 right to SSRS's camp.




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