Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger

[Vaj]

On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:38 PM, sparaig wrote: It's the dfference between relative and absolute, played out neurologically within the brain.  OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads one to describe the world in these terms.  Either way, its radically different than the high concentration Buddhist meditation findings  that Vaj likes to tout here. Actually Vaj has never "touted" any meditation technique here that uses "high concentration". As Dana Sawyer pointed out in some previous quotes shared here: meditators using these techniques are able to transcend easier, longer and more frequently. This is accomplished by teaching students to find their own unique balance between subtle effort and no effort. Eventually meditation become totally (and truly) effortless: one sits, decides how long, and simply goes into samadhi/shamatha for the entire session! Once one can sustain transcendence for longer periods of time (IME over about 10 minutes) one can also decide to practice non-dual forms of meditation, which unlike what you describe where the senses disengage from objects and withdraw (or "retire"/transcend) and separate inner and outer into a dualistic divide--one can instead cultivate unity consciousness and work with methods which leave the senses "open". And this is the natural sequence in learning meditation: going from meditation requiring "supports" (e.g. a mantra) to no support.  __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___