I started Pilates about 2 months ago and really enjoy the workout as well as 
the results - 
which for me involves good, relaxed posture in the shoulders and feeling and 
moving 
"really tall." I never have had back problems.  I have done yoga, including 
Iyengar and 
Anusara for years, but the core training was the piece missing.  While training 
the core 
muscles, I also do a Pilates style workout of all the muscles in my joints 
(arms and 
shoulders, hips, ankles). Feels fabulous and makes a difference in what I can 
do in yoga.  
In fact, at this point, doing the simple set of TM assanas and some sun 
salutations is all 
the yoga I like or need.   I think some of the yoga around today is using yoga 
postures 
with too much effort and strain.   

--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Core training refers to a body of  information gathered by physical
> therapist about the balance of strength and flexibility needed for our
> muscle system function properly.  Sports trainers have learned so much
> about rehabbing injuries and some physical trainers are using it as
> the basic exercise program for athletes to prevent injuries.  The
> basic core training is your stomach and back muscles which work
> together to keep our backs functioning properly and the correct
> balance of power with our limb muscles.  Asanas were good start for
> gaining flexibility in the back, but you need to add the strengthening
> of all the stomach and back muscles to have a strong core.  If your
> core is strong then you don't displace energy into your limbs, which
> strains your joints if your core muscles are weak.  One guy who was
> way ahead of the curve on this was Joe Pilates, whose training
> programs are all over.  I am a big fan of Mark Verstegen's work at 
> http://www.athletesperformance.com/  He has a very popular book and
> DVD for an exercise program which you can customize for your own
> fitness goals.
> 
> The yogic system was great for its time but there is a lot of new
> information about how important it is not to stretch ligaments which
> many yogic postures do.  The lotus posture is one of the  the worst
> offenders.  Sports therapist have discovered how to position stretches
> so you only lengthen the muscles not the tendons.  He also has a great
> program for exercising the small supportive muscles around each joint
> so that it functions in the proper position without as much wear and
> tear.  Many body builders found this out the hard way by over
> strengthening the pecs and lats which pulls the shoulder forward and
> down, destroying the rotator cuff over time.   Each joint has a bunch
> of small muscles to position it properly and it takes light weights
> and precise positions to get them strong.  Once I strengthen these
> supportive muscles it made a huge difference in my overall strength. 
> Both these systems have helped me a great deal but they are not the
> only ones out there.  This information is so hot in exercise
> philosophy now there are many sources for it.  Good luck!  I am also
> curious about what exercise programs other people are enjoying.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002"
> <markmeredith@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > One of the first indications that all was not cool in the Emerald City
> > > was when I was still flying and a chiropractor took my back X-rays
> > > after I had thrown my back out.  He said " So how long have you been
> > > jogging?"  I explained to him how I was practicing flying and he
> > > explained to me the implications on my vertebrae by sitting in full
> > > lotus and bouncing on my butt, even on foam.  He showed me how that
> > > posture  actually takes you butt cheeks away from protecting the spine
> > > during flying so that I was  compressing my discs. It was very
> > > visible, my bottom discs were compressed like a marathon runners.  He
> > > tried to explain the implications of my behavior but, of course, I was
> > > too enlightened for his advise at the time.  I don't know if discs can
> > > recover from such a stress but my back is great these days from all
> > > the core training workouts I do so I can't assess if I sustained any
> > > long term damage.  What was interesting for me was that I saw my
> > > compressed discs at the time and still continued to practice flying
> > > until I got out of the mindset that I was doing cosmic good for
> > > myself.  I remember the sickening feeling that perhaps MMY and his
> > > crew did not understand the implications of his program on people's
> > > backs and I might have set myself up for a very painful old age.  
> > 
> > Exactly my experience too.  What are "core training workouts"?  I'm
> > gradually healing my back but have some ways to go.
> >
>






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